322: Leprechaun 3 (1995)

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We're feeling lucky this week as we revisit a franchise surrounding a man in search of his gold. Before we find the other end of that rainbow, though, we have some follow-up.

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Let's follow up on some stuff. Yeah, we have some new patrons to welcome to the family. I just want to say, Jane and Daniel, hello. We look forward to seeing you on the other side of the rainbow. Bring your pots of gold, though, because we would enjoy that, just saying.

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Absolutely. And don't terrorize any leprechauns looking for shitty marshmallow cereal.

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And that's our follow-up.

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Well, this week's film takes us on a journey illuminated by the neon lights of Las Vegas. While Lady Luck reigns supreme, a mischievous creature arrives on scene, turning every roll of the dice and flip of the card into a gamble with fate itself. Amidst this chaos, a young man becomes unwittingly entangled in a deadly game, racing against time to undo a curse that's come with a cost. The director sought to infuse the series with more comedy and was ultimately proven right. His vision led the entry to become the highest selling directive video film of its year. And while this film was intended as the final act of a trilogy, its success in video sales breathe new life into the franchise, and ultimately led to five more entries in an upcoming reboot. This week, we're talking about Leprechaun 3. Who's seen this one before?

SPEAKER_02 2:04

I've actually never seen this one before. In fact, I feel like I've only seen two of the films in this franchise prior to this, in the first one being the first one with Jennifer Aniston, and then Back to the Hood, because that one was always on TV for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 2:22

Hell yeah. Listen, if you've seen anything from the Leprechaun franchise, it's when Leprechaun visits the Hood. As it me being from the Hood, I also saw that very frequently. I've seen so many movies in this franchise, but I've never seen them in order.

SPEAKER_01 2:37

I think this is the furthest I've made it. Because of the pod, I've now watched three Leprechaun movies, one, two, and three, and that's the sum total of everything I've seen Leprechaun-wise.

SPEAKER_00 2:46

Hmm. Perhaps three too many?

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Time will tell.

SPEAKER_00 2:49

Yeah. Despite having seen so many different movies in this franchise, I don't believe I've ever actually seen this one before. At least I knew it was taking place in Las Vegas. I gathered that much. But there was nothing that stood out from a particular memory of this movie for me. But I can at least admit that I expected it to have more energy and more presence than when Jason took Manhattan. I figured if they're fucking going hard and this leprechaun is taking Vegas, this motherfucker's taking Vegas. He's gonna be at some slot machines, he's gonna be at some fucking tables, and we're gonna have a party.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

One could hope. But you know, it's leprechaun we're talking about here. It's a silly premise as it is, right? You have to be expecting some level of absurdity, of maybe campiness. It's what you would expect from, I don't know, like a B movie or some kind of thing like that.

SPEAKER_01 3:43

I didn't even look at the trailer, honestly, going into this. So I think when I look back to Leprechaun 2, I was thinking it's gonna be worse than that. And I I don't think I rated that very high. So I just imagine there would be a lot of camp, silly, like ridiculous characters, really cheesy kills, and lots and lots of one-liners, puns, limericks, whatever.

SPEAKER_00 4:04

Silly is such a good way to describe any expectations because the biggest thing I felt during this movie was how silly it was. This movie is absolutely bananas, and Warwick Davis shines so much. It's one of those that it's campy, Sean. You described it perfectly. It's like a B movie, it's gonna push the envelope of just being absolutely absurd. But Warwick Davis really anchors it in a really great way. I hoped, and the expectation was that he was gonna have more presence than Jason. Yeah, absolutely. Take notes, man. If you say Jason takes Manhattan, he needs to be doing what this leprechaun did because this man was stealing the scene anywhere he went.

SPEAKER_02 4:46

He did definitely add to the film. It is the leprechaun movie. I think that the silliness, the campiness, I feel like it really ramped up. Now, I I went from seeing one to this, and then I've seen back to the hood. So I know on that trajectory of you know, we're skipping movies in between and going all the way to back to the hood, we can see that there's a increase in camp. And I see that I don't know about two, I don't know about two, but this one feels like they really ramped up the camp in this one. This one felt campier than the first one. It was very silly, and some of the dialogue was super questionable at best.

SPEAKER_01 5:26

I think out of all the movies we've watched here, which has been three so far of the Leprechaun franchise, I wish they added like a different variety of comedy because we get a lot of the same going on here, and it's it seems a little bit more restrained in this one than the previous iteration. Uh, but I wish we got maybe some fourth wall breaking. I think our our lovely leprechaun would benefit from that to have that Deadpool style kind of dialogue with the audience because we we're already in on the jokes anyway, and so we're rooting for him in many cases to take some people out in creative ways, especially when they think they're gonna get away with stealing his gold. So I always say we'd add some of that in. Maybe some have some characters just being incredibly serious. I'm thinking like nobody makes me bleed my own blood kind of situation from dodgeball. That would also be a great addition. But yeah, I think while you're watching this, it's silly. Anyway, that's silly, and it's campy. And yeah, I mean, you just you expect it. And so while watching it here, it's satisfying because you're given a lot of that. It can get repetitive, especially when we start really like forcing limericks down your throat. That is that gets a little bit too much. But surprisingly, here, I didn't hate every character, and I and I actually enjoyed when the leprechaun showed up sometimes. So that's a market improvement for me.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

Yeah, there is plenty in here that's like almost like a fun, refreshing little treat once you get into it. Caroline Williams is in this. We recognize her from Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2. She was famed Final Girl Stretch. There's so much good in here, and that I think is the biggest surprise to me. Because I really enjoyed the first Leprechaun movie with Jennifer Aniston. That was one where you put it on, it's not a great movie, but you just can laugh with friends. And then Leprechaun 2 ended up feeling really mediocre. This one felt like it was on the upswing. And I think the other thing that I'm surprised about is actually how disappointing it can be in so many different moments. And I don't mean that I'm shocked it doesn't age well as a 90s movie, but listen, it does not age well in some moments. There are some elements of its comedy and some one-liners from the leprechaun that feel fucking timeless, honestly. You insert that into a movie today, you'd get away with it. But then there are other things that just feel like they're in poor taste. I can't sit here and say, oh, if I was 30 years old in the 90s, maybe I wouldn't feel this way. I think I just don't like this because it's just not core to who I am. There are some things in here that I'm like, okay, well, we could have done something different here, don't you think, Warwick?

SPEAKER_01 7:58

I I think disappointment-wise, you could say that it's based in Vegas. We're going to be in a casino, and the casino itself is a caricature of casinos, right? And so it feels very inspired by some concepts of 1950s and 60s casinos, and there's like a hint of some mob stuff going on, and it just feels caricature-wise. If I think about like Star Trek, they did a couple episodes set in casinos. There's a fantastic one called The Royale in the Next Generation. There's one called Bada Bing Bada Bang in Deep Space Nine. That one I actually really enjoy because it's like Ocean's 11, like way before Oceans 11, which was uh also a lot of fun. But I feel like everything that talks about casinos always gravitates towards showing them in this silly way. But at the same time, could you have it any other way with Leprechaun? Would it be fun if we took it seriously? It's kind of a bummer because it's really like a surface level casino entry. But the surprising part is how well that works with this leprechaun character. Because of money, I guess. But honestly, his interactions with the casino are minimal, and the other characters work really well because it's leprechaun. Everyone's greedy, they just want money. Yeah, they they could have gone harder into that direction how they wanted to, but I think it was just a match made in heaven. Leprechaun in LA met, but leprechaun in in Vegas actually really worked, and we could have done way more than that if they truly wanted to.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Yeah, they could have leaned into it heavier for sure. They could have kept it going. It's like the perfect place, I feel like, to your point. I think one of the things that I was most surprised about was the fact that I feel like I had a good time suffering through this film. That's the best way to put it. It's definitely a B movie experience. So if you're into that, this should be okay. It should be up your alley in some ways. And maybe I think to your point, where Chris, you know, some of the disappointments for me, it's the characters, and I do think some of the dialogue to what you're hinting at, but also just some of the regular dialogue was disappointing too. That stuff fell flat for me. It just didn't work.

SPEAKER_00 10:08

Man, when I think about what this movie tries to do with its comedy, obviously, as a B horror movie, it's not gonna be out here to scare you. I think it does have these moments of really gruesome violence. It's campy, it's fun, it's so gross you don't really want to look at it in some moments. But then it does something where it wields a very sobering reality in a sobering moment, and it hits at something so insidious and nefarious that that ends up being what's scary about this movie. It's interesting because it's not something that I actually sit here and think, oh yeah, this is a scary thing, but it takes a very real thing that happens that still happens, and then it doesn't mishandle it. I think this movie, for as many times as we've seen something similar in horror movies, most movies just totally shit the bed, and I think this tries to handle it elegantly. And my issue with this movie is not with that, but it's just a very interesting choice to make for a schlocky be horror leprechaun movie. I'm not mad at it. I do think it adds a little bit of credibility to the movie, but holy shit, you came for a limerick spewing leprechaun, and then you got slapped by the patriarchy in oppression.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

That is definitely true. That was an unexpected moment. When you get closer to it, you realize, ah, it feels gross, it feels dirty. Please don't make this happen on screen. And they treat it, I think, like you said, in a way that is commendable considering the rest of the film. Like they could have gone down a really dirty path and they didn't. So good on them. Like you said, it's not scary. I don't think it's meant to be scary. It's in the genre, but it's not meant to scare you necessarily. I mean, unless you're a kid.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:48

If you're a kid watching these one, first of all, come on, parents, let's do a little bit better monitoring because it's probably not good for kids to watch this kind of stuff. I watched this as a kid.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

Oh, come on now. Yeah, no, fuck that. This come on.

SPEAKER_01 12:01

But if you're seven and you're watching this, yeah, there's some kids who might get a bit scared. Yeah. All of us, we probably would have been fine, but our first movie was fucking Children of the Corn.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 12:12

Well I get it, I get it.

SPEAKER_00 12:14

I was watching Leprechaun in the Hood when fucking younger than this.

SPEAKER_02 12:17

That's why we're here, you know?

SPEAKER_00 12:18

We turned out just fine.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

A-OK. Yeah, there isn't much left to really be said about this movie being frightening or not, because sadly this one didn't have much of a frightening tone to it. It's the leprechaun of it all. It just allows for more of the silliness to overshadow the real terror. Yeah, the leprechaun definitely looks a little bit gritty and gruesome and nasty looking, but uh outside of that, it's not really out here trying to scare you. I think I even saw at some somewhere online that it was listed as a horror comedy. I don't know if that's what it was intended to be when it released, but that's where it fell into now.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

So yeah, it definitely intended to be a horror comedy, and that's exactly why this movie was so successful. This is a franchise that was born on the back of it's kind of funny in moments, but we're making a horror movie, and then the director for this one said, no, we're going full comedy, and all of a sudden it's selling out like crazy. Real popular in Blockbuster.

SPEAKER_02 13:13

Hey, get those B movie rentals, man. That's where it's at.

SPEAKER_00 13:17

I do think that decision and that departure in tone and the way that it absolutely leans into it, makes this movie stand apart from its previous two entries, really helps define what a horror comedy should be. Not that this is the epitome of it, but I think this is a really good early example of a solid be horror comedy.

SPEAKER_01 13:37

Yeah, when we get some like Friday the 13th moments and even some Halloween moments where we've got silly characters and you can hear banjos playing as as the characters show up, and then they go back to being serious afterwards. You're like, okay, we had here's an injection of camp, but the rest of it we're gonna treat it seriously. This one's like, no, this subject is camp. Yeah. And so how could you not make the film like that on purpose, right? I think the first one, very different. The second one was mostly just goofy, but it wasn't a deliberate like use of goofiness. We're just making goofy stuff, but we're not really wielding it to its full power. And then when we finally get here, it was no, no, no, no, no. We know exactly what we're doing, and we're gonna lean as hard into that as we can right now. And so, yeah, it's different from the stuff before it. I don't think I could compare it to other horror movies. I don't really know what you would compare it to. And so I think that that is definitely in its favor here.

SPEAKER_02 14:28

Yeah, I don't know. That these are interesting takes because, in my opinion, I feel like it may, yeah, I could see it separating itself. I haven't seen the second one. I can see it separating itself from the first one a hundred percent. So if we're giving it credit there, that's cool. But I still think when you peel back the layers of the Irish folklore stuff and you take the leprechaun of it all away, the formula is very familiar that you see in tons of horror films, whether it's a slasher or a supernatural type thing. I think the overall way that the story unfolds is very similar to anything we would see from that era.

SPEAKER_00 15:02

It is. But who else was doing it with Irish folklore?

SPEAKER_02 15:06

Okay, so you take that away and it's the same shit. You put that in there, okay, yeah, okay, you give it a little bit of credit there. You give it a little bit of credit.

SPEAKER_00 15:13

Yeah, we get to a certain point where we can reduce any movie down to the bare basics of everything, right? That's like how you start getting like Star Wars and Harry Potter are the same fucking movie.

SPEAKER_03 15:23

Oh, yeah, true.

SPEAKER_00 15:24

But I think Eleprecha can stand on his own two little tiny feet. That's not to say that I think it's fantastic. And I know that I've been very complimentary of this movie so far. I've had some good things to say, but where I struggle actually comes towards the end of this movie because it's almost as if there's an element of the plot that's introduced very early on, and you think, okay, that could be fun, but I feel like it kind of shit the bed on its execution, and instead of being really fun, it felt like a distraction. It felt like it was just excessive. It felt like move over, bud. We're trying to do a thing here with a leprechaun, and it really just kind of soured the movie for me. Like I was having a little less fun.

SPEAKER_02 16:11

Here's the thing what are you really trying to get out of an ending to a film like this, you know? Honestly.

SPEAKER_00 16:17

Yeah. It's more so the whole third act.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Oh, okay. All right.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

At the end of the movie, in the result that we get, yeah. I think we get what we would usually get in the movie like this, and that's fine.

SPEAKER_03 16:28

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:29

But the road it takes to get to its ending, Shawnee said it earlier, you're almost suffering through it.

SPEAKER_02 16:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

That's where the suffering comes for me.

SPEAKER_02 16:38

That's the key words there. It wasn't that it was horrible, but rather that it wasn't good. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

It's not so much that I hated it, it's so much that I had to endure it.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

They made weird choices. Let's say that, because they set up a Chekhov's gun in the beginning of the movie that they just never really mess with. And we're expecting it the whole time. We're like, oh, they're gonna use that. That's how we're gonna get to the end of this movie. Maybe we'll get some sequel baiting. Who knows? What's gonna happen? And they were like, nah, just kidding. We're gonna go in the silliest possible direction, almost like an insultingly silly and unnecessary direction. I think that's what I felt about the inning, is that they just it was completely unnecessary, the method they used to get to the end of the movie. Some of the stuff they did with the characters, some accents that showed up. It was bad. It was just not good choices, and it was just overly complex when it didn't need to be at all. This movie probably could have chopped off not too much, maybe 10 minutes, and they could have just made the story a lot simpler.

SPEAKER_00 17:37

Well, it sounds like it's the could've, should've, would have of it all. And we'll see how that actually impacts the ratings when we get there. But for now, Sean, how would you describe the gore score?

SPEAKER_02 17:46

There is some gore here, but I feel like the mix of bad practical effects make for a less than realistic experience. So while we get some eye gouging fun, I think it's too silly to get anything higher than like a medium low gore score.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Alright, well, what about the animal report?

SPEAKER_01 18:05

And just like the leprechaun, it's all good in the hood.

SPEAKER_00 18:08

Let's go ahead and get into our ratings then. Leprechaun 3 from 1995, was it a hack or was it a slash? And I think I'll actually kick off here because I had to make something a little special for the occasion. This is a movie where I had a lot of mixed feelings, and it wasn't until writing out my score that I really found where my heart lies for this moment in time. And I do want to say that this is probably the strongest contender so far for perhaps retracting later on at the end of the year recap. So I'll say this in Sin City, the leprechaun made his bed. He wielded one liner sharp, and some folks ended up dead. Warwick Davis shines in this role so grand, his antics and jests like gold in his hand. Some moments bring laughs, some bring dismay, with deaths that are memorable in a most gruesome way. It aims to be bold in its own unique style, yet at times misses the mark by more than a mile. It straddles the line between good and bad, nearly half and half, though this time it's a tad just over the fence by the slimmest of cracks. It's a journey of jests, but alas, it's a hack.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Wow. Wow. That was good.

SPEAKER_00 19:24

There we go.

SPEAKER_02 19:25

I mean, listen, when you really break it down, this movie really isn't that good. Its premise alone is silly and absurd, but somehow you don't feel absurd watching it. It's actually kind of a fun movie to watch. And so I don't know, you got these silly rhyming one-liners, right? They did get old after a while, but some of it was admittedly humorous. So this is the kind of movie that I think exemplifies the whole it's so bad, it's good thing. And I mean, I mean, because exact that's exactly what it is, but it doesn't make it a good film. So I think this is also a tough one for me when I was trying to think of like how do I want to rate this movie? Because it is a B movie. You're not expecting anything fantastic out of a B movie, right? And it's this whole, you know, it's gonna be bad, you just gotta have fun with it, but is it fun enough to be something that you consider good or something that you want to actually watch? And I think you can look at the original three Evil Dead films, for example, and say that those are super campy, but I think they're good horror films and they hold up more than I feel like some something like this does in the sense of like when I want to watch something campy and fun, I'll gravitate to something like that before I gravitate to a movie like this, even though I could still have fun watching this movie. So I went really back and forth on this one. If you're in the mood for a silly good time with a horror film, maybe you want to get in the spooky spirit for St. Patty's Day, then this might do it for you. But overall, you're not really missing anything if you never see this film in your entire life. And because of that, I think it has to be a hack, which is unfortunate because how can a movie be a hack when you still kind of have fun watching it? It's a really strange one to kind of review, but it is what it is. It's a hack.

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Okay. I think for me this came down to expectations because the first one is what it is, right? Then you get to Leprechaun 2, and it's bad. It's just not a good movie whatsoever. There's, of course, many reasons why it's bad. Go listen to the episode, just saying. And so I think it set expectations for me to be like incredibly low going into this. I thought this was gonna be so horrible, like insultingly bad. And then you kind of at some points enjoy the suffering, like you've mentioned, right? Like you're having actually like a little bit of fun. There's some other points that are very cringe and you just want them to pass by. But overall, I actually had a lot of fun watching it. It's silly, it's lighthearted, it's not a lot. I wonder. I wasn't worried. I started this on a lunch break. So I wasn't worried watching this at work, right? Because there's a concern when you watch this kind of stuff. The concern is boobs. All right. And so I made it through probably a good 30, 35 minutes, and I was safe. We were good. I finished the movie at home.

SPEAKER_00 22:16

When you weren't good.

SPEAKER_01 22:17

Yeah. And then things don't get the same kind of a rating. They had to throw them in just because. Maybe it's the time period. I don't know why. But there they were. And at that point, I think that's also the same time the rest of the story really started to go downhill. They did not nail the ending on this film. And so for me, now it's a battle of for let's say two-thirds of the movie, I mostly enjoyed myself, even though I knew that it was bad. It was like this is a bad time, but it's also a good time because of it. And then the last third is like this is just okay, when is the movie gonna end? But my expectations were very low, and they rose above those expectations. So I'm actually gonna give a slash here because if for the majority of the time I actually enjoyed myself, then for the majority of the time you get a slash.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

It's fair.

SPEAKER_00 23:04

Because your favorite color is green.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

That's true.

SPEAKER_00 23:06

Well, there you have it, folks. Leprechaun 3 from 1995 has somehow earned only two hacks while still snagging a slash from Mac. And you can find this movie streaming online. Check the link in our show notes to see where you can find it right now. Then join us in the second half so we can dig into this pot of gold together. See you in a bit.

SPEAKER_01 23:32

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SPEAKER_02 25:05

That being said, let's get into it. What were your favorite kills?

SPEAKER_00 25:08

Absolutely. Fazio's death is definitely the best in the whole movie, for me specifically. Mitch, I was the most glad died, but Fasio, fuck that guy, saw it right in half. The horror of the blood spurting out onto the leprechaun, onto his own body, the audience realizing what's happening. It was 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

That was the best part for me was just watching the audience slowly realize that wait a second, this is no longer a magic show. This dude's getting chainsawed in half.

SPEAKER_01 25:41

Yeah, very satisfying death, especially when earlier he's planning to freaking light his like assistant on fire, except magically she'll be in the other box, so they don't have to worry about it. And we're all like, nah, dude, you're gonna kill her if you do it. And then he gets got by a trick. So satisfying.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

I would like to point out how disappointed I was that the chainsaw was so tiny because that is the same exact size of chainsaw that got stuck on a very narrow little portion of a tree in my backyard. It's a handsaw, underwhelming. That shit ain't going through bone.

SPEAKER_02 26:13

Maybe you just need sharper chain.

SPEAKER_00 26:15

Oh, yeah, yeah, maybe. But can we also just acknowledge that in this movie, the leprechaun killed more people with a chainsaw than Leatherface did in the Texas Chainsaw Massacre? OG?

SPEAKER_01 26:26

Extra satisfying.

SPEAKER_02 26:28

Yeah, we need more chainsaw in that fucking chainsaw massacre.

SPEAKER_01 26:31

You mentioned it. I'm gonna go with Mitch. I could swear that the leprechaun was gonna be pretending to be a woman at some point in this movie. I was like, it's gonna happen. He throws his voice sometimes like that. And then of course, when Mitch thinks he is gonna get one over on his employee because he used a wish, I was like, oh, what if it's the leprechaun in disguise? That would be the best, right? But it wasn't, and so when she gets freed and she bounces out of there and he starts that whole TV thing, first of all, the commercials on the TV, that was the best part of that entire scene. That was awesome, it was hilarious. But for the woman that popped out of the TV to end up being a robot, dude, robot hooker, dude. One sci-fi guy, love it, uh, and then to use that to not choke him out with robot arms, but to electrocute him, wasted opportunity, but still satisfying.

SPEAKER_00 27:24

It reminded me of Chucky when we get Chucky like all melted in one of the sequels very early on with still child's play. I absolutely loved that approach to it. Get him good, you know? Just fucking expire this man. He's trash.

SPEAKER_02 27:41

Definitely. Those are two good ones. I'll tell you about two bad ones, and that's Art and Tony's kills because those were kind of bullshit. Those were straight up bullshit. I'm just gonna go out and say it. They just got whacked in the back, not even the head. It felt like they just got whacked in the back a few times, maybe four or five times. That's like a deep tissue massage, motherfuckers. There's no way these two guys died because of that, but if that's what we're adding to the kill count these days, questionable at best.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

Absolutely. Can we also just take a moment to talk about the pawn shop owner? How shitty would it be? And I would really I thought about this in this movie. I sometimes think about it in Final Destination. How shitty is it to pay for your own death? Specifically, he paid $20 to die that night.

SPEAKER_02 28:28

Yeah. He did. He did.

SPEAKER_00 28:31

It's the economics of mortality.

SPEAKER_02 28:33

Ooh, that's rough. I kind of liked his character too. Like he who was he added some fun to the film, just watching him get angry at this leprechaun and trying to go after it, and like he would get defeated, and then he'd be like, you know what? No, I'm gonna come after this guy again. Like it just felt like I was rooting for him, you know? I was really rooting for him.

SPEAKER_00 28:53

I really hoped that he would make it to the end of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 28:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:56

And he's just this guy who gets fucked up and he's missing part of his ear, and yeah, he's missing a toe, but hey, he made it to the end, and I think he honestly deserved to make it to the end. Not to just be killed and then just suddenly forgotten by Scott and a fucking win streak.

SPEAKER_01 29:13

Very true. Yeah, that was pretty sad. Like it never comes up again, basically. That's what a good guy Scott supposedly is. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Yeah, no, Scott is a situation in and of himself. But Loretta, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01 29:27

That was a strange one. What was that? For a minute, it was like all of these recent memes making fun of this new plastic surgery-inspired body style. It's not even a type, it's like a style with everything being incredibly exaggerated. And so, like when we weren't going past that, it's satire now. We're making fun of this type of vision of what beauty is. And then we started getting bigger and bigger and blowing up, and it was there was a line somewhere in there that we just completely forgot about.

SPEAKER_00 29:58

Yeah. This is another one of those movies that you have to wonder is the intention to treat women well. And I think Loretta's death, as dramatic as it is, as absolutely insane as it is, and as absolutely gross as it is, I almost think it does her a disservice because I think she's a character who you feel for because fucking Fazio is the one really holding this image and like getting all these snide remarks against her. And she is a beautiful woman who is aging gracefully, and she is made to feel as though she's not enough, as though she needs to be more stacked, like she's in her 20s, she needs her to feel like her body's a little bit tighter, as the body dysmorphia, and then the beauty standards and the body standards, it's just a little sour. And I think that's where I'm talking about where while Mitch the bitch and his whole plea for fucking oppression and just like absolute predatory nature, while I think that was handled in a way that had a level of reverence for what they were trying to do. I don't know that Loretta's death did.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:05

It just ended up being a big fucking bummer.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

It was kind of a bummer. I get it. It's 95 or whatever, it's a B movie, it's campy, but the effects just didn't do it for me there. You know what I mean? Even the effects of it, I feel like at least if that's the way you're going out, at least give her the good effects, or at least try a little bit harder. It just looked like claymation almost.

SPEAKER_00 31:27

Yeah. I think I needed Loretta to be more of an evil character rather than to feel some sympathy or empathy for her. Because if she was the big bad, if she was this purely evil person, and maybe she wasn't like feeling she was aging out of beauty and aging out of her ability to earn a living in fucking Las Vegas, then maybe the shittiness of the effects would have been fine. But I need something better to sell me on this woman's finality. But also just like the chunks. The chunks?

SPEAKER_02 31:59

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 32:00

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

I think somebody posted a explosion in reverse video on YouTube of that kill. I don't know if I watched it, I skimmed through it though.

SPEAKER_00 32:10

What about his little one-liner about what a load that was to explode? It was giving after dark.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Listen, he had a few kind of funny one-liners, and that one was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

It was something. It's weird. I expected like a lot of the kills here to be just like more clever. Anytime any magical creature grants you a wish, it's supposed to backfire on you. And we're in a casino and no one gets completely enveloped by money. Why did nobody drown in gold coins or dollar bills or something like that? I think that would have felt better for her than exploding body parts.

SPEAKER_00 32:49

Yes, absolutely. Scrooge McDuck, this shit. Give me the money vault. The logistics of the magic are a question mark for me. So Scott is on his win streak. He remains on his win streak, he gets his earnings, and then the coin is stolen from him. Okay, we have that. Mitch ends up with the coin. He wishes for Tammy. The second Mitch is no longer in possession of the coin, Tammy wakes up. She's snapped out of this stupor. But then when Loretta loses the coin, she still retains her body. I was waiting when we have this moment where she no longer has the coin and she's just staring at herself in the mirror. I was waiting for the slow reveal that she was aging back into her former body. That I think would have been a cooler thing. Beauty is fleeting, right? But instead, it seemed like she would have been okay had she just not exploded.

SPEAKER_01 33:43

Right. And if he was gonna go with something more clever to show her, you know, that you be careful what you wish for, she should have just kept aging. He could have snapped his fingers and she would have gone back to her older self, which is basically her with a wig on, and then just keep the site, keep it going. Make her age and age until she's a skeleton.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Or Benjamin Button her.

SPEAKER_01 34:05

Oh she wants to be younger?

SPEAKER_00 34:06

Fucking send her down to being a fucking child, and then all of a sudden down to an embryo.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

Now we're crossing the line of just being the wishmaster.

SPEAKER_01 34:15

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 34:16

Because that's the wishmaster's thing, twisting your wishes and your words into something that's more exaggerated. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 34:24

That's also the monkey paw of it all. There are a million things out there that have this whole moral of the story, right? Careful what you wish for.

SPEAKER_01 34:33

I'll give them crap for how the wish process works, because I feel like this was not based on anything in previous films, and I think it's probably just because I didn't pay attention. Just like that amulet, I don't remember the amulet at all.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

Leprechaun franchise doesn't give a fuck about continuity.

SPEAKER_01 34:50

That's true. They retcon stuff all the time. I love it. But even though the wish stuff is questionable, it's one of the small things that I actually enjoyed. Because when you see a movie and somebody gets a wish, you either get sparkles or you get a jump cut. But we didn't get that quite here. We got a glowing red coin in the hand. And in terms of production elements, this was a great choice. Because if you're gonna show a wish being granted and they're using a coin to make it happen, why would you not give us that visual of that like lighting up and turning red? Also, it's nice that it's red because red is usually bad. You don't want things to glow red, typically. It's like a stop sign or I don't know, fire, that kind of thing. But it had like a sinister note to it, but it's glowing red in their hand. I loved it. It was a great look. And then we got to see the jump cut or whatever else they were going to use to transition to the change that happened after the wish. So really a small thing. It's mostly because the rest of the movie wasn't special to look at, and I just happened to pick the one thing that was glowing.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

I don't know if I'm right there on the glowing red coin, because for me, the one thing I could think about was that shit looks hot. I would be concerned that my nerve endings were having difficulty responding to a hot temperature. It looked like it was about to melt. But the leprechaun and even the charred corpse of the leprechaun were among my favorite production elements because the makeup application here, Warwick Davis's transformation into the leprechaun, I didn't say shit about Scott Leprechaun because he was a fucking mess. Our poor Warwick, 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_02 36:23

Yeah, I'm with you there. I think overall the practical effects, pretty hit or miss. Some felt campy in a fun way, some were just downright bad. We talked about Loretta, but yeah, the makeup for the leprechaun itself, fantastic. Mac, you touched on it a little bit earlier on the like commercial type things, and I think what I enjoyed a lot was the stupid little infomercials that you got, because you got a handful of them, and the leprechaun was always in them, and it was some play on some bullshit that you would see at three in the morning in TV back in the day when nothing else is on, and you're just like blankly staring with like your mindless numbness just at the screen, just watching whatever the fuck is on that late at night, which was nothing. So that was fun, that was entertaining.

SPEAKER_00 37:09

Speak for yourself at that time of night. I was watching Three's company and making French bread pizzas when I was younger.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

I I love that part too. I think it's great. I don't know what the future of Leprechaun has in store for us, but that little sequence shows us like the potential of what they could do with this character and being silly and having fun with being leprechaun effectively. Like good use of his that character's at least sense of humor. You you did mention earlier, Chris, the character Gupta, and gosh, I know it was the opener, and so you're not supposed to really get too attached to the opener, right? Because the opener always dies, whatever. But the back and forth between Gupta and the Leprechaun was actually great. And the fact that he survived so long after having so many pieces taken off and he just bandaged it right up. I love when they get to the bargaining scene. The bargaining scene between the two of them was fantastic, right? Because he's approaching it very pragmatically. It's my favorite scene in the movie because I think when you talk about leprechaun lore, a lot of it has to do with either capturing in exchange for this, or hey, I've got your gold, so give me that. And so I love that he's actually attempting to do some bargaining. Very smart, but then of course, as per the lore, the leprechaun is always going to outsmart you. And the whole fishing thing was hilarious and silly, but like that back and forth to me is what really leprechaun is all about.

SPEAKER_00 38:35

Yeah, I don't know a ton about leprechaun lore. I do remember being surprised about their shoe fascination from the first film, because all of a sudden the leprechaun was being distracted by shoes. So when he takes off Gupta's shoe to bite off his toe, I was pleasantly reminded of that little fun fact. However, Mac, that is completely my favorite scene because, and I'll tell you why. The only added detail I have here. Before you could Google what the fuck a leprechaun was, you had to rely on having a random legends and folklore CD in your junk drawer.

SPEAKER_01 39:11

How fucking convenient was that?

SPEAKER_00 39:13

Right?

SPEAKER_01 39:14

Was that a CD or a laser disc? Oh because it sure looked like a laser disc to me.

SPEAKER_00 39:19

You're old enough to know the difference.

SPEAKER_01 39:20

The difference, I don't know. I don't think I actually used laser discs back in the day, but I believe like the case. Oh no, you take the case off. What was it then?

SPEAKER_00 39:29

It was giving CD. It was giving the same kind of CD that those AOL trials came in.

SPEAKER_01 39:35

Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:36

Yeah. But again, a very convenient CD to have.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00 39:41

Either way, you know, you either have encyclopedias or you have legends and folklore discs for your computer.

SPEAKER_01 39:49

First, first of all, did you not have Britannica on CD?

SPEAKER_00 39:53

I did not. I have a fucking whole collection of actual encyclopedias in my storage room.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

It was literally legends and folklore, but only about leprechauns.

SPEAKER_00 40:04

Only about leprechauns, yeah. The rest of the fucking disc bundle was in another pawn shop across town.

SPEAKER_02 40:10

It was fantastic.

SPEAKER_00 40:12

Could you imagine a werewolf one?

SPEAKER_01 40:14

Oh. It was a good program because there was a lot of content on that disc, right? Because he had to do a search for leprechauns, but there were other options. So I wonder how much they were able to really there's audio. These files must be pretty large, probably low quality audio, but impressive.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

It was wild. Listen, I think this movie has a lot of really fun things to it. So there's a lot of different scenes that I think are really funny, right? Like I think there's this whole scene with the mafia dudes, like the good fellas, if you will, that are trying to shake down Mitch, right? And the threats just felt ridiculous. They felt silly. The muscle dude was just dumb. He was just, I don't know. It was a subtleness there that I feel like added some great value to the comedy factor that wasn't too bad. It actually made you laugh a little bit. There's that whole back and forth with the leprechaun and the fake Elvis, which was hilarious, I think. That was a good scene. But let me tell you, that scene, I don't know why this got me so good, but the scene with Fazio and Loretta, they're going back and forth, and there's this moment where Fazio is basically it's the whole magician telling someone they're crazy because they saw something move on its own. That was too good. For me, I don't know why. I don't know if it hit you the same, but for me, I was like, man, how clever was that? Someone had to put thought into that. They don't just fall into something like that. And I just loved it.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

That was a fun choice. I they also they did some clever stuff with literally both of those characters you've mentioned. One, uh, the big muscle guy, and two, the great Faussio. Both of them were slyly gay. And there were some references that Loretta made back and forth between her and him. And then the whole like jock strap thing with the muscle guy. I was like, somebody was showing off something here. And I like squeezing that kind of stuff into the writing because I feel like back then you were either the butt of a joke or they just took things too far. And here they were like, let's keep it a little bit subtle, but we want people to pick up on it if they pick up on it.

SPEAKER_00 42:16

You know, it wasn't subtle though. Any of those fucking one-liners in this movie. Sean, you used the disgusting line to open the show, which honestly, when you say it, it hits different. It's fine, I get it. But let's just go back to you want my heat-seeking moisture missile, don't you? What the fuck, Mitch? You are literally a piece of shit. I fucking hate your ass.

SPEAKER_02 42:40

Who says that?

SPEAKER_00 42:41

Oh my gosh. And we'll get into the Mitch scene and his interaction with Tammy, but these one-liners, this dialogue is unhinged and also kind of great, but also fucking unhinged.

SPEAKER_02 42:56

Yeah. It was yeah, I feel like it wasn't just Mitch. There were some just wild one-liners in general. Maybe it was just Mitch, to be honest with you, because yeah, a lot of his dialogue was some of the dialogue where I was like, don't really need it. But I think the heat-seeking moisture missile of it all was just so over the top and so random. And I feel like if anyone says that, what the fuck? That it just was too good to pass up, you know?

SPEAKER_00 43:24

Yeah. If for me it was also, have you ever blown a rod before?

SPEAKER_02 43:27

Yeah, there is that.

SPEAKER_00 43:29

Now that was quite a load to have to explode, which again I mentioned earlier, but it's really even the bullshit dialogue from some the from some of those filler moments. I've got hemorrhoids tougher than you. What a nineties thing to say. I can't remember the last time I heard about someone's hemorrhoids.

SPEAKER_02 43:45

Yeah, no one wants to hear about your hemorrhoids or how tough they are, to be honest with you. That just makes you look bad. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_00 43:53

Yeah, exactly. That's why it's a very nineties thing to say.

SPEAKER_02 43:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 43:57

The one liners I can handle, even though they're pretty gross. the the limericks I think are what started to wear out over time. It was just like, all right, we're getting we're going too far across this line. And then it wasn't even just a leprechaun at the end who was doing it. And that's the part where it's like this is bad. This is real bad.

SPEAKER_00 44:13

Yes. 100%. Some of the limericks, great. Some of them reaching. Because then it was an oversaturation. And Scotty, listen, it's an interesting thing to treat leprechaunism in the same vein that you would treat lycanthropy. And that what bite transmits it and so all of a sudden he's got like werewolf properties and he's a vampire.

SPEAKER_02 44:37

Yeah what the fuck?

SPEAKER_00 44:38

It's a little out there, my dude. It's a little out there. Scotty was a fucking dweeb in the beginning with the way his jaw was hanging down, but okay, I get it. He's supposed to be a good guy. I'm not that mad at it. But when he goes quarter leprechaun and then half leprechaun and then full leprechaun he became more and more unbearable. So he's not as charming as Warwick Davis is as a leprechaun. The limerick was terrible honestly he didn't have a single line that hit for me and it was like the weird wispy hairs on his face it's just how does one leprechaun look so good as a leprechaun and this fucking guy is looking like Stephen King's character in creep show.

SPEAKER_02 45:23

He just looked like almost for a second there he just looked like he was turning into some kind of rat.

SPEAKER_00 45:28

Or you know the Grinch.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

Or the Grinch. Oh yeah. Yeah. Something along those lines yeah Warwick Davis I mean that iconic look and then his energy that he brings to it and all of that I think you can tell he had a good time with that character. I feel like yes the one-liner rhyming bits were definitely you know they're after me lucky charms bullshit it got old after a little while the more that it progressed but I feel like what's interesting is that I can actually with Warwick Davis in this movie you forget all about Willow and Willow was so iconic for me growing up so watching Willow I think man Warwick Davis that's what I gravitate towards but when you watch this movie it takes you completely out of that and he's a whole different thing and it's a I don't know he did a good job with this character. I think he had a good time with it obviously he has a good time with the character it speaks to how many he signed on for so I think speaks well to that character. But Scotty when you look at that Scott whatever John is real name I couldn't tell if it was just John as a bad actor or just the written character of Scott and what John had to work with to be Scott that was just horrendous because out of everybody in this movie his lines fell flat as fuck. It was terrible there wasn't anything good about it. Nothing. Yeah I couldn't buy into it at all.

SPEAKER_00 46:55

Yeah he was supposed to be giving happy go lucky really naive really gullible in some moments I see that a little bit it did shine through. But it didn't necessarily make him super likable. Honestly he was just a good static character for the rest of the world around him to happen to which I can respect and appreciate to a certain degree I think that parallel against Tammy fantastic. Tammy for me was the heart and soul of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 47:27

Yeah Tammy was good don't have a problem but then again the dialogue between Tammy and Scott it just was one-sided to me. Like it just felt off it didn't feel like it flowed right like I just couldn't invest into it. So that's when I talk talked about it earlier like the characters and the dialogue it wasn't always just the raunchiness or the shitty one-liners from Mitch or whatever. It was actually just the character development or whatever they had to give you a performance that just didn't work.

SPEAKER_00 47:59

Yeah I also could have done without their fucking romantic happily ever after.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 48:03

And there's a hint I know that this was supposed to be like the end of a three part series of movies. The whole coin at the end thing it's like sequel baiting a little bit and it also tells us things probably don't work out for them. But in reality I think it should have been way more obvious that things didn't work out for them at the very end. Yeah. If they still got the coin he should have realized something was bad and they should got hit by a bus or something. Who knows?

SPEAKER_00 48:25

Oh no not the final destination of it all hit by the bus.

SPEAKER_02 48:29

Oh man I don't know I think the bite thing lame I think maybe they could have done something where the leprechaun may die but then Scott slowly turns into the leprechaun because of his greed and all that shit and then that do what that what you will do you make another movie do you not but that would have been an interesting way to segue into the opportunity of another one. I don't know what they do for four and how they explain this little fucker coming back but always two there are no more no less. So it anything works at this point.

SPEAKER_00 49:09

You're absolutely right.

SPEAKER_01 49:11

It would have been bomb if the leprechaun like formed in his guts and just burst out of his stomach at the end.

SPEAKER_00 49:16

Like alien dude absolutely that'd have been great or he took like a green poop and it turned out to be the leprechaun you know that would be a callback to earlier oh man it's giving the child's play sequel where a drop of blood was introduced into a vat of the silicon material and then he just fucking comes back.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

Yeah ridiculous it is interesting I feel like they definitely didn't use Tammy well enough. You know like they completely misused her in some parts because in the beginning it's like she's actually pretty smart and she's even like caring for this random guy that give her a ride don't gamble you're only 18 this is a really horrible place get the heck out of here and then for a good chunk of the movie she's just cast away and then she comes back in a really horrible way and at the end she ends up with Scott.

SPEAKER_00 50:03

Mm-hmm. Yeah it's giving again the Shawn of the Dead ending where you realize this woman is made to look like she has a happy ending but really she's just settling for this scrub.

SPEAKER_01 50:14

Right. Right. He definitely hangs out the side of his best friend's ride.

SPEAKER_00 50:18

Trying to holler at her absolutely and that's the thing about it Tammy has been through so much bullshit and we know this about her with every bit that she reveals about her experience her career and then the absolute horrors of what happens with her and Mitch it's all fun and games because she's under some kind of spell right so her ability to tap into that kind of performance and just be so over the top second third fifth hand cringe because of just like how the baby talk is just really annoying. But then the magic disappears and it is so fucking sobering so quickly and she is so concerned about what happened to her the emotion that she demonstrates there the fear the repulsion and then the emotional fallout of this motherfucker actually firing her and then later saying all she had to do was cooperate. Like how he was gonna make her a star. Her face when she was leaving his room and they cut back to her later absolutely devastating absolutely heartbreaking Lee Armstrong is the best performance in this movie hands down. It's not the kind of serious moment you maybe want in a B horror movie but that was a moment that just really showed how great her character is and how she deserved a better outcome than any of these fuckers.

SPEAKER_02 51:41

Yeah she carried it she carried it for sure. Her and Warwick you know that it's a good dynamic. It could have just been her we could have lost Scott didn't even need to be in the picture.

SPEAKER_00 51:50

Fucking redo this movie without a leprechaun werewolf and give me fucking Tammy as the hero. Absolutely she was the best part of the movie for me.

SPEAKER_01 51:58

I could swear for a minute when he bit Scott's arm that Scott was going to lose that arm. He was just going to rip it off and snap it in half and then he was about to get taken out and I was like oh okay cool we'll finally get the main character that we actually need for this film which is not him it's her okay evil dead evil dead yeah kind of yeah what was he gonna do put a fucking pot of gold on the fucking stump of his arm but Mac could shoot a fucking rainbow out of there dude and then he can have pots of gold at the end.

SPEAKER_02 52:26

I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 52:27

Nah if Bruce Campbell was in Leprechaun 3 that's what would have happened but he's not and so it didn't let's get that crossover right Leprechaun 9 with Bruce Campbell.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

She's definitely a high point of this movie though. It's aside from her it's hard to say what the best part is. So I'm gonna go back I'm gonna cheat I'm still Sean's I'm gonna say the infomercials was at least the most I don't know the most entertaining part of the film the most pleasant surprise but if I have to pick a worse part it was the entire saga of turning into a half leprechaun that added honestly very little value to this film. Like you said earlier it was distracting it was annoying and his accent his limericks they were bad his acting was bad you both mentioned this already so I think that just that whole final third section where this is the story we're now going on didn't add up with the first two thirds therefore I hate it so worse part of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 53:25

Yeah it's just that they needed to invest more in the turning into a leprechaun if they were gonna do it and it just was a minor focus and it really should have been a major focus if that's the route they're they're gonna go down I feel like but you also said something of it's hard to pick a best part or one best part something along those lines and I agree with it because I don't know that there's one absolutely fantastic best part of this movie. I think for me there are these little pockets throughout the movie where they do an absolutely exceptional job at blending camp and horror together to make a really fun B movie campy horror thing but then there's other spots where they completely squander that opportunity and it either go too over the top or it just doesn't land but those moments those little moments that you do get you get that glimmer of a movie that could have been great. You know what I mean? And so that has to be the best part.

SPEAKER_00 54:28

Yeah and that see this is exactly where I struggle because for all the negative I've said there is so much good in this movie and not great in this movie but good fun it's a good time and so when thinking about whether or not I would watch it again I struggle because I want to watch it again for Tammy. I want to watch it again for the leprechaun but I don't want to watch it again for Scott. I don't want to watch it again for Mitch and that's where it comes down to the pros and cons of it the 50-50 of it and maybe this is something I might revisit later on in a whole franchise binge but I don't know that it's something that I want to singularly revisit. And that's where exkewed my scoring tonight I was very 50-50 on it but I think about having to see Scotty the leprechaun again and I'm like yeah I can do without yeah I have luck of the Irish if I want to see a guy slowly transform into a fucking leprechaun.

SPEAKER_02 55:22

This is true and I agree I don't know that there's a ton of rewatch value in this movie and that does kind of hinder your rating. It has to in a sense I feel like this one is a one and done situation unless to your point you want to sit through the entire franchise but honestly why would you do that to yourself you know what I mean you're gonna watch eight leprechaun films no way that does not sound like a great time I just can't see anyone wanting to do that. Even on St. Patrick's Day you know what I mean come on you can watch one but not a franchise binge there are better films in the franchise itself to watch so you don't really need to see any of them in any specific order from what I can tell. I don't feel like I missed any story continuity at all watching one, three and whatever it was five or six back to the hood or whatever. I feel like just go and find one that's maybe more fun. I don't know which one is the best one because I haven't seen them all but listen sorry to anyone out there if this is your favorite horror movie or your favorite horror franchise but if it is then you definitely need help and there are much better films to watch. So no it's not a rewatchable movie. I'm sorry. It's a one and done.

SPEAKER_01 56:34

Well goodness I gave it a slash and I'm gonna agree with both of you that like while I had a good enough time for most of it to slash it it's not something I would seek out. It's not something where I'm like oh I can't wait to watch this again or it makes me so good it makes me feel so good that I want to watch again. Nah not it's not like that. It's that hey I expected this to be a horrible pile of steaming crap and it wasn't and it made me laugh a couple times okay it's good enough to watch all right but do it again now you're pushing it.

SPEAKER_00 57:00

I think it says a lot that even with two hacks and one slash none of us want to revisit this shit. Well we've certainly had a robust discussion here but the conversation on this movie doesn't end here by any means.

SPEAKER_02 57:14

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SPEAKER_01 57:26

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SPEAKER_00 57:37

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SPEAKER_02 57:42

And if you're gonna linger I'll give you the finger