When we settled into our seats to watch Renfield, we weren't expecting to be so captivated by the unique perspective of this classic tale - exploring the complex relationship between Dracula and his loyal servant Renfield. But as Nicolas Cage's mesmerizing portrayal of the Count unfolded, we were shocked by the unexpected humor, and felt an overwhelming sympathy for Renfield's struggle to break free from his bond with Dracula. What would Renfield's fate be?
Tired of the constant bloodshed, Renfield finds himself questioning his loyalty to the Count and the toxic relationship they share.
Join us as we dive into Renfield, a vampire movie with a twist. With Nicolas Cage and Nicholas Hoult leading the cast, follow the story of Dracula's familiar as he longs for freedom and questions the loyalty of his toxic relationship with the Count. Will he finally break the cycle?
In this episode, the team:
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Explores a novel perspective on Dracula lore and vampire storytelling in Renfield.
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Witnesses the impressive performances and undeniable rapport between Nicolas Cage and Nicholas Hoult.
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Detects the seamless blending of horror, comedy, and adrenaline-pumping action in Renfield.
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Investigates the intriguing dynamics and character interplay between Renfield and Dracula.
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Savors memorable moments and noteworthy scenes, such as the protection circle and a Lizzo musical cameo.
The comedy in the movie
The comedic aspect of the movie is a notable feature, intended to entertain viewers while still providing thrills through horror elements. While the comedy may not land well with all audience members, it cannot be denied that it adds an element of fun to the overall viewing experience. Despite this, some viewers might prefer a more traditional horror formulation, questioning the effectiveness of blending humor in such a macabre story. Kris and Binx had opposing views on the comedic aspects of the movie, with Binx voicing disappointment in the humorous direction and Kris appreciating the entertainment value it added. Their shared discussion illustrates the subjective nature of comedy in the movie, with some enjoying the blend of horror and humor while others prefer a more classical vampire narrative.
Nicolas Cage as Dracula
Nicolas Cage's portrayal of Dracula in the movie is a fresh take on the iconic character, combining his classic sinister essence with an added touch of dark humor. His performance is a departure from the traditional interpretation, showcasing his versatility as an actor and his ability to breathe new life into an age-old tale. The film excels in portraying Dracula as a multi-dimensional character, and Cage's acting makes it all the more captivating. Kris highlights how Nicolas Cage exceeded her expectations as Dracula, describing his portrayal as campy yet intimidating. She appreciates the movie's nod to Bella Lugosi's Dracula, and how Cage's wardrobe and makeup contributed to the overall appeal. Kris commends Cage's performance and finds it one of the most engaging aspects of the movie.
Renfield and Quincy's Relationship
Renfield and Quincy's relationship further adds an interesting dimension to the film, offering another layer of character development and interaction. Their dynamic provides an opportunity to explore personal growth, as both must rise to the challenges posed by the supernatural nature of their world. Though compelling, this relationship may not engage every viewer, and some may find it less impactful compared to Renfield and Dracula's symbiotic bond. During the podcast, Binx expresses her disappointment in the dynamics between Renfield and Quincy, questioning his investment in their relationship. The hosts give differing viewpoints on the importance of their relationship within the film, showing that audience opinions of the characters' relationships will be diverse.
The Dynamic & Chemistry between Renfield and Dracula
The chemistry between Renfield and Dracula, both played by Nicholas Hoult and Nicolas Cage, is a vital element in the movie's success. Their on-screen relationship, driven by codependency and manipulation, is undeniably captivating. The film showcases their natural camaraderie and ability to play off each other's characters, which makes their interactions even more enjoyable to watch. While discussing their favorite scenes in the movie, the delves into the chemistry between Renfield and Dracula. Binx points out the history between the two actors, who have previously played father and son, which adds depth to their on-screen dynamics. The hosts particularly appreciates the way both characters balance the comedic and sinister elements, highlighting the skill of the actors in bringing these complex roles to life.
Renfield and Dracula's dynamic is a central theme in the movie, as it explores the complex relationship between these characters, both sinister and comedic at times. The reliance and toxicity of this relationship are prevalent throughout the film, emphasized by the codependency and manipulation between the two. This dynamic is undeniably one of the movie's primary selling points, as the viewers are drawn into their twisted friendship and disturbed alliance. Kris illustrates this dynamic by discussing how the movie showcased the different facets of Renfield and Dracula's relationship. The hosts mention specific scenes like the group therapy sessions, where their manipulative bond is exemplified, and emphasize how this portrayal deepens the understanding of their complex relationship. Kris is particularly intrigued by their on-screen chemistry and the way the movie presents their unique connection.
Timestamped summary of this episode:
00:00:04 - Introduction
The hosts introduce their podcast, Hack or Slash, a horror movie review podcast, and welcome listeners to the episode.
00:01:14 - Follow up on Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008)
The hosts discuss listeners' reactions to their review of Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008), which was a mix of positive and negative opinions.
00:06:13 - Expectations for Renfield (2023)
The hosts share their expectations for the film Renfield, including its humor, gore, and Nicolas Cage's performance.
00:08:18 - Differences in opinion on the film
The hosts share their differing opinions on the film's humor, with one finding it genuinely funny and the other finding it cringe-worthy.
00:11:29 - Nicholas Hoult and Nicolas Cage's performances
The hosts discuss the performances of Nicholas Hoult and Nicolas Cage, with one finding their chemistry and comedic timing to be a highlight of the film.
00:13:03 - Nicolas Cage as Dracula
The hosts discuss Nicolas Cage's lifelong dream to play Dracula and how he delivers a comedic yet sinister performance. They also touch on his familial ties and inability to be a part of the 90s Dracula film.
00:14:20 - Nicolas Cage's Intimidating Presence
Despite his comedic value, Nicolas Cage has an intimidating presence both as himself and in the characters he portrays. The hosts discuss his ability to walk the line between humor and fear.
00:17:36 - Renfield's Refreshing Perspective
The focus on Renfield as the main character provides a fresh take on Dracula lore. The hosts appreciate the combination of old and new elements in the film, as well as Nicholas Hoult's performance.
00:19:22 - Wholesome Ending
The hosts praise the film's action-packed, hilarious, and empathetic ending, which ties everything together and provides a satisfying conclusion. They compare it to the disappointing ending of another horror film they reviewed.
00:26:55 - Kill Count
The hosts discuss the numerous kills in the movie Renfield, with a total count of 42 kills and additional deaths reversed by Dracula's blood. They highlight their favorite kills, including the use of limbs as weapons and Dracula's implosion of the priest.
00:33:24 - Visuals and Effects
The hosts discuss the impressive visual elements and effects in the movie, including Dracula's transformation and throne in his hideout, the flashback footage harkening back to the original Dracula, and Dracula's turn into the cauldron of bats.
00:37:13 - Therapy Group
The hosts discuss the therapy group scenes and the topic of codependency in relationships. They praise the group leader's humor and the relatable Carol interruption bit, and highlight the group's overall comedic impact on the movie.
00:39:16 - Resurrection
The hosts discuss the resurrection of the therapy group in the end and their traumatized state, which adds believability to the movie. They joke about the lack of believability throughout the rest of the movie.
00:42:29 - Horror Comedy
The hosts discuss their overall thoughts on the movie Renfield, with mixed opinions on its success as a horror-comedy. They recommend it for fans of Nicolas Cage and those looking for a unique and campy movie experience.
00:39:56 - The comedy in the movie
The hosts discuss the comedic moments in the movie, including the portrayal of John Ralphio in a serious mafioso version, and the hilarious flashbacks.
00:41:05 - The animatronic puppet
The hosts mention the animatronic puppet used in place of Nicolas Cage during a scene where his character is on fire, and how it added to the humor of the movie.
00:43:30 - Romantic tension
The hosts discuss the forced romantic tension between Renfield and Quincy, and how it didn't quite work with their characters' dynamic. They also touch on how Awkwafina's physical comedy didn't always land.
00:47:41 - Chemistry between Renfield and Dracula
The hosts rave about the chemistry between Renfield and Dracula, played by Nicholas Hoult and Nicolas Cage, respectively. They note how the actors' previous roles as father and son in The Weatherman may have contributed to their on-screen dynamic.
00:51:17 - Heavier undertones
The hosts touch on the heavier undertones of the movie, particularly the deaths of characters in the support group. While it didn't feel comedic, they appreciate the complexity it added to Nicholas Hoult's character.
00:53:22 - Twilight vs. Dracula
The hosts discuss the portrayal of vampires in Dracula and Twilight. The team acknowledges Twilight isn't considered a significant part of vampire lore and prefers the classic depiction of Dracula.
00:54:33 - Renfield and Dracula's Dynamic
The hosts discuss the chemistry between Renfield and Dracula and how they wished there were more scenes of the two together. Nicholas Hoult and Nicolas Cage's performance in the movie are also praised.
00:54:46 - Protection Circle Made of Cocaine
The best part of the movie is discussed, with the hosts agreeing that the protection circle made of cocaine was a great bit. Lizzo's musical cameo is also mentioned as a standout moment.
00:55:01 - Renfield and Quincy's Relationship
Binx shares that the worst part of the movie was the lack of chemistry between Renfield and Quincy, even if it was just supposed to be a friendship.
00:56:20 - Double Feature and Rewatchability
The hosts discuss their plans for rewatching the movie. Binx is on the fence about it, while Kris and Sean would watch it again and even add it to their fun October movie list. They also suggest pairing it with other horror-comedy movies like Bella Lugosi's Dracula and Rob Zombie's The Munsters.
