444: Send Help (2026)

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Well, lots of fluids there, I'll tell you that much.

Kris 0:11

The last time we covered Sam Raimi's work as a director, we were deep in a world of Evil Dead, Eagle Dead 2, and Army of Darkness. Now, more than a decade after directing Drag Me to Hell, Raimi is back with another story about survival, resentment, and also people making terrible choices under pressure. The acting cast rate of McAdophilia wasted her talents in Doctor Strange of the multiverse of madness. And now, giving her a role that critics are playing, career redefining. The story follows an employee and her boss, the only survivors of a plane crash, after they become stranded together on a deserted island. And they have to decide whether they can trust each other long enough to make it home. This week we're talking about send help. Greetings and salutations, and welcome to Hacker Slash. If you're joining us again, welcome back. If this is your first time listening, welcome to the party. We are a horror movie review podcast dedicated to telling you whether a movie is a hack, a total joke, a waste of time, or a slash. Totally killer, pun intended. My name is Chris. I'm your friendly neighborhood slasher enthusiast. This week I'm joined by the classic horror connoisseur Sean.

Sean 1:27

Let's go, boys, cocks in the air.

Kris 1:29

And the paranormal paramour, Binks. You ever hunt? I think I like it.

Sean 1:34

You're tuning in to send help, but if you support the show, you'll also get to hear our B-side at the end of this episode, where we get into one of my favorite reality shows of all time, Survivor.

Kris 1:45

I have been dying to learn more about your survivor obsession. But before we get there, folks, what were you expecting going into this one?

SPEAKER_01 1:51

Man, well, I was really looking forward to this one. I'm a big Dylan O'Brien fan, and Welt Millennial doesn't love Rachel McAdams. You know what I'm saying? But Sam Raimi in the mix, I was not expecting that. That's the outlier when you say those two names, right?

Sean 2:05

That's so true. Like it's such a weird like mashup. You just don't think Sam Raimi, I mean, I guess the multiverse or whatever, but Sam Raimi and Rachel McAdams just feels like a different type of matchup.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

For sure. I mean, what's she doing in horror in this capacity? In a Sam Raimi films in particular, I think of those two names, and maybe I'm thinking a little bit more action adventure, Dylan O'Brien, famous for like Maze Runner, right? Rachel McAdams, famed rom queen, or romance drama at the very least, too, right? Romance period. So what's Sam Raimi gonna do with this? It felt a little off, but I was excited for it because regardless, anything that he does, I'm a fan of, whether it is off the wall, drag me to hell or multiverse of madness.

Kris 2:51

Yeah, I've seen neither multiverse of badness nor drag me to hell, but I have seen his treatment of Spider-Man. So you know what? That was actually my introduction to Sam Raimi, was his Spider-Man trilogy. However, Rachel McAdams, I have such a deep and profound adoration for this woman, not just from Mean Girls, not just from the notebook, but from the seven-o-hit classic that, in my opinion, was highly underrated, but had an exceedingly great trailer, Red Eye, because that shit was positioned to be a rom-com until things just went south. And going into this one, okay, stranded on an island, you either fell off of a boat or you probably crashed on a plane. And I'm thinking, damn, Rachel McAdams, I hurt for you getting on another plane and having some shit go down. I think if I were you, I'd stop playing in movies like this because there's a lot of trauma associated with this. Now, beyond that, I had zero expectations going into this, specifically because I was unsure what lane it was gonna live in. I expected maybe some of that survival tension again, the island of it all. I thought what could Sam Raimi possibly do that would make Castaway feel like a horror movie? And I thought maybe there'd be something there. But what was interesting, uh this immediate impression that you get like smacked in the face with when the movie starts, is how quickly the horrors of corporate America just get under your skin.

Sean 4:28

So true. Oh my god, the office bullshit drama. It's so real in this one. Everyone's probably gonna relate to it in some capacity if you've ever worked in that kind of environment. But yeah, it's an interesting one what to expect going into this. I don't really know. I think it's a film by Sam Raimi, and when you think of Sam Raimi, I instantly think of the Evil Dead, Evil Dead 2, Army of Darkness. I don't instantly go to Spider-Man, but I know he did Spider-Man. I also think of Dark Man, The Quick and the Dead, Drag Me to Hell, obviously. So there's just like this certain vibe to Sam Raimi films. They may not always be silly and campy, but they are all pretty much for the most part fun movies. And I can also just get down with some survival horror. So when I saw that this trailer dropped and I watched the trailer, my mind did immediately go to that kind of like, is this gonna be some kind of horror castaway? Because it could be my vibe. I'm into that kind of stuff, so we'll see what happens. And ultimately, you know, when you look at what we got, I think to an extent, we kind of did get something along those lines. What I also think is interesting, and you kind of mentioned it opening this show, Chris, is Sam Raimi. I mean, the last time he did anything horror-related was probably dragged me to hell, which was 2009. That's so long ago.

Kris 5:49

Well, to be clear, he did that as a director, but he was listed as a producer for like Umma.

Sean 5:55

Well, sure, sure, yeah.

Kris 5:56

So, I mean, there's that. There's he's been around horror, but yeah, I mean, 2009 being the last time he directed a straight-up horror movie, and I know the Doctor Strange film that he did had a horror bend to it. It was horror-leaning. Again, I haven't seen it, so I can't speak to it. But it's good to see him back in the settled. Well, maybe that's a generous statement, because this movie is barely horror.

Sean 6:22

Well, that's another thing, too, you know.

SPEAKER_01 6:24

Dang, that's another thing. Well, okay, I that feels like a good segue to say that I did expect comedy because if you can expect anything from Sam Raimi, it's two things, at least for me. It's gore CGI. I'm kind of combining that into one word a little bit because he does some weird stuff with how he portrays gore and makes things gross. And the second word is comedy. I mean, he's a funny guy. I know that you know, I've had my history with Evil Dead on this show, but the first movie really is warming up with me as time goes on and I watch clips and stuff. Like it is a funny and like fun movie. More serious. I get it. I'm seeing the looks. I know.

Sean 7:09

More serious than the than you know what follows. Than funny, but therefore, yeah. It still has that vibe to it. I get what you're saying. And yeah, this movie that's the whole thing. Is it really that much of a horror movie? Like, there's a lot of key moments in there. Well, a lot of actually super generous. There's a few key moments in this movie that feel like a horror movie. Outside of that, it really feels like maybe this adventure drama, to be honest with you.

Kris 7:39

Yeah, you need that's not an unfair statement, Sean, but let me position a couple doses of horror that we get or in this movie. One, naturally, the plane crash of it all is very final destination meets really goofy CG high and just disgusting gore. So that is one aspect of it. There is brutality in this movie, which, even though it doesn't hit you in a way that's like wow, I am shocked by this. I mean, granted, we just saw the mummy. It's a completely different ballpark. But the other token of this is a woman who in true final girl form is going through this whole movie finding this place where maybe having to survive is a moment for her to discover that she actually does have power. So the empowerment of a final girl, even though after a plane crash, you are in fact not just a final girl, you're the only girl. You're the only girl.

SPEAKER_01 8:41

That's it. Yeah, you're the only girl. You said it right there because if there's two takeaways, it's I felt empowered to be that bitch when I finished watching this movie. I felt empowered, and I feel like a lot of people will too. But I don't know, I felt like there was a good amount of tension here, and there's a good amount of very gross stuff going on that to the average viewer, they could argue that this is horror, this is like really good, stressful situations, most certainly. But there is a lot of quips and comedy one-liners that keep it light. So it certainly toes the line. I feel like this is gonna be horror for those that don't watch horror.

Kris 9:22

This is, by any stretch of the imagination, so far away from scary, but what it does position to you is a damn, wouldn't it suck if this happened situation? It's really the horror of being trapped with someone who has power over you, who devalues you, and still expects your labor. And that that pushes it into horror from a certain point of view.

Sean 9:50

Yeah. I think overall it it is just kind of a really fun movie to watch. That's the kind of the like there's a lot of gross scenes in this movie, there's a lot of like weird stuff with the CGI, there's some horror elements, there's some other shit, but I do think like it's overall, it's just kind of like a fun movie to watch. You just want to keep seeing what's gonna happen next. And part of that enjoyment of watching this movie is this constant discomfort between our characters in this movie, between Bradley and Linda, their dislike for each other. Every interaction feels like this thin line between bonding and trying to secretly kill each other. And I think I was just really vibing with this stranded island theme that was going on. And I don't know, you're talking about wanting, you know, it feeling empowered to be Linda in this movie, you know. We're talking about like this evolution of this character, which we're gonna dive a little bit heavier into as we get into characters in the spoiler section. But have you ever watched one of these types of movies? Maybe not wanting to be the character, but have you ever watched one of these types of movies and just like wanted to be in the situation? Because like there's so many, is that maybe a weird thing to say, but I see so many of these. Like, I got stranded on this island and I had to survive. And I'm thinking to myself, like, I understand I may actually die very quickly. That could happen. I'm not saying I'm a survival expert by any means, I may actually fail, but the thought of being out there and having no other worries other than surviving and not having to deal with all the bullshit in this world and just chilling on this island and trying to like find food and explore and build a shelter. I mean, it sounds kind of nice.

Kris 11:31

Okay. Sean is really saying, don't tempt me with a good time. Put me onto the Sims Castaway.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

I'm kind of whip. He's cooking because I was on hold with the IRS for over an hour. And you just made me think that maybe being out there in an island just being resourceful and DIYing may be better than having had been on hold with the IRS for an hour. So you're up to something there.

Kris 12:00

I do think it's this relatable appeal in the same sense that nobody actually wants a zombie apocalypse, but we all kind of want a zombie apocalypse. You know what I mean?

Sean 12:10

Yeah, it's that kind of feeling.

Kris 12:12

Nobody wants the actual gravity of a zombie apocalypse and seeing everyone you know and love who's absolutely would not survive, not make it. Nobody wants that. True. But if we just like compartmentalize that and we just get to the fun shit, then I think that is a sign of us having a little bit of optimism.

SPEAKER_03 12:34

Yeah.

Kris 12:35

And our ability to be calm under pressure and just look at that glass half full and say, at least we can have a good time with this.

Sean 12:43

A hundred percent.

SPEAKER_01 12:44

And also, Sean, give yourself a little bit of credit. You definitely would survive your survivals.

Sean 12:49

I mean, yeah, I'm saying I I probably could for an extent. I don't, I mean, I don't know. I've never actually tried to do anything like that, you know, outside of camping for a few days, you know what I mean? But even then, you know, I don't know.

Kris 13:01

But I'm particularly conditioned for suffering, so I think I could last. I may not have Sean's skills in terms of like structural integrity, but I would last an uncomfortably long time simply because my my soul would just refuse to die.

Sean 13:18

Nice.

Kris 13:19

Not the conditioned for suffering. It's actually one of my best qualities, I think. I can endure quite a bit.

Sean 13:27

That's wild. But I think I think what works in this movie is that from the start to the finish, it's in some ways a very relatable film. It starts off as this really super relatable film with the whole toxic office culture. The movie does a really good job at really weaponizing the office resentment of it all, those fake corporate smiles, like being passed over for job promotions, having this douchebag for a leader, and it just turns all of this into literal survival warfare. And I think the whole setup for this movie, it's just really easy to invest in.

SPEAKER_01 14:06

It is, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. I think like we all know someone that's represented in the opening scene that establishes that corporate setting, even for the smallest moments that some people serve, like you know that person, you can then put yourself in that spot and it takes you through for the journey. Now, that said, I will say, man, Dylan O'Brien. Oh, as much of an asshole as he is in this role, again, playing someone that we may know, a real douchebag of a boss. It's really hard to hate him completely with how charming and how like, you know, like how hot he is. Well, for me personally, I think that that aside, they serve as really good foils for one another because it's not just the boss and the, you know, maybe the nerdy employee that like has just been nose to the ground, working hard, trying to make friends. That doesn't have to be in the corporate setting. We know those people in so many different other settings that are outside of the corporate life, right? Maybe in friendships, maybe in family families and relationships, etc. But I like that they portray him as someone who seems to be very charming and lovable because that's evolved now. You know, we see that some of them from the exterior, some of these people that are actually mega assholes know how to work a room. They're know how to like look good and maybe be nice at the forefront, but then slowly but surely reveal how menacing they are. And then you just never can judge a book by its cover. Let's say that.

Kris 15:45

I don't know. Sometimes you get real good at peeling the paper slips off of the hard covers and seeing just how shitty they are underneath. That's just me though. Sometimes you can look at the cover and say, Wow, I know exactly who you are. Very rarely. But this movie, man, I don't know when the last time was that I felt such a roller coaster of joy from laughter and good for her, and also fucking being enraged and infuriated. Because and again, with the movie, this movie dabbles in humiliation that hurts, and I hate watching it, and I actually get emotionally invested in it because I maybe because I have a great deal of anxiety that just constantly makes me wonder, oh my god, am I being a Linda? And maybe this is me projecting onto the movie, I don't know. But I think because of that, what this movie does with its corporate horror, with its comedy, even with its gore that has a lot of physicality and it commits to when it wants to be bloody, it just makes it a really well-rounded experience. But I think what's dangerous about this is despite how Dylan O'Brien is hateable and charming at the same time, or Rachel McAdams is given the performance of a lifetime here, depending on who you are when you go into this, you're either gonna be pleasantly surprised or you're gonna be really turned off based on your expectations. So this is not something to go into thinking I'm gonna get a straight up violent and tense horror movie. This isn't that experience at all.

Sean 17:34

Yeah, that's super fair. I think it's there's a lot of tonal whiplash throughout this movie. Like, it definitely isn't a straightforward film. You're gonna get a lot of different emotions and different feelings while you're watching this movie. And so, like, I think that there has been a pretty good amount of praise for this movie, but I do think that you know, there may not be enough true horror for all horror fans. So that's what I worry about. Like, if you're going into this movie wanting to watch like a really good horror horror movie, this is probably not gonna be the vibe. But if you do like the kind of survival horror, but you also want to see a little bit of like a good story, some drama, and some laughs, some little cringy moments, right? This is gonna be a kind of a wild ride that's can be really fun.

SPEAKER_01 18:20

And again, I think that it could be said it's a great movie to take someone who's always wanted to see something a little bit scary, but not too much. Maybe just wants to feel adrenaline. Maybe that's their goal. I think this can incite that, most definitely. I felt like when I was watching it, I was a little surprised that we weren't leaning a little bit too much in the horror or having a lot of, I guess, jump scares, or maybe just like overall traditional gore. I think there were certainly some times where I'm like, that's right, I'm watching a Sam Raimi film, and you can see the humor is established, and when we do get the gore, you can tell it's very branded to him. But other times I'm like, yeah, this is kind of giving a little bit more thriller, good time. I've recommended it to some of my friends that don't really like horror at all because I know that they can take it and they could relate to a lot of it, certainly, in terms of again what we've spoken about with the corporate relationships. But this is also really good for those that are horror fans and do enjoy Sam Raimi. I almost consider it like a good comfort, throw on and have a good time.

Kris 19:24

You know, I actually think I would recommend this to the person you know who is so conflict avoidant at work, who constantly finds themselves in a precarious situation and lacks the testicular fortitude to actually fucking grow a spine and say something about it. The kind of person who fantasizes about clapbacks at home while they're eating their dinner and didn't have the courage to think of that or really have the initiative to say it in the moment. Anyway, if you want corporate revenge, I think this is a great movie for you, regardless of whether or not you're into horror.

Sean 20:01

Yeah, there's something for everyone, I think, right? Like if you just go in wanting one specific thing, that's where the disappointment might come into play. But there definitely is something for everyone in this one. You can be a fan of Sam Raimi's style and like this one. You can be a fan of horror, survival horror, corporate whatever. You can be a fan of all this stuff and just have a really good time. It's not super serious, but then there are moments that feel really serious. Like there's just a lot of good stuff in this movie. I think you just gotta be open to enjoying the ride.

Kris 20:34

Well, I guess the real determining factor here for who this is for is gonna be coming down to our ratings. But before we actually score it, Sean, how would you describe the gore score?

Sean 20:44

Well, it's not that this movie is like super over the top with gore. It's not like this slaughterhouse type of film. It's you know, there's a it's I don't know, maybe more of like this moist inconvenience, I guess you could say. Like there's just a lot of like gross out moments of not even just gore, but just effects. And there's, you know, when you when Sam Raimi decides to get nasty, he definitely gets nasty because there's just everything from like these vomiting moments, there's blood splatter moments, there's eye trauma, ripping flesh. There's like a lot of really like great moments, but it's not all just gory blood, like there's just some cringy moments that have to do with bodily fluids and different things like that. And I think overall it earns itself probably somewhere in the like medium to medium low gore score. It's not over the top, but it's kind of gross.

Kris 21:32

I feel like we need a cleanse at the end of the year where we just reduce some of the fluids in these movies because between this and the mummy, I'm done with the fluids for the year. But how would you describe the animal report?

SPEAKER_01 21:47

Well, lots of fluids there. I'll tell you that much. This is not safe. But then again, I mean it's a survival movie, folks. Sorry to break it to you, but did you think that there would be?

Sean 21:57

Fair.

Kris 21:58

Well, let's go ahead and get into our radio. Send help from 2026. Was it a hack or a slash?

Sean 22:04

Well, listen, I think Sam Raimi delivers on this stranded on an island setup. I think he turns it into this really just fun story that starts as you know a plane crash survival story, and it quickly mutates into this battle of wills between an overworked office punching bag and this douchey boss that's riddled with dark humor. It's just a really fun ride, and that's where this movie really thrives. It's not as a full-on horror film, it's not thriving there, but as a survival thriller with those signature Sam Raimi flashes of horror that we all know and love, that's where it really thrives. And even though this one definitely didn't feel like the most horror of horror films, there are moments where the horror shines through with some cringe-worthy gore, a few nightmare visuals. There's this escalating sense that the two main characters that we get are literally one bad day away from eating each other alive. But this movie is it's just much more interested in tension building, that humiliation piece, and just like the overall psychological warfare of just watching these two co-workers slowly become feral. And what makes this movie work so well, I think, is really just in its commitment to the power shifts that you get in this movie. The film constantly plays with this sense of control, resentment, the dependence and revenge as literally Linda transforms from this timid office workhorse into this blood-soaked island survivorist with nothing to lose. It's just such a cool story. And Rachel McAdams sells that evolution beautifully while Dylan O'Brien makes Bradley just slimy enough that every failed escape attempt feels like this gift. And Sam Raimi also keeps the simple premise visually alive with his unusual manic close-up shots that he gets, those really like uncomfortable shots, the gross sound design, the bursts of splattered absurdity that remind you that really Sam Raimi's still got it. He's there, he's got all the tricks, they work, they you know it's the style that we love. And overall, this is really just a fun survival comedy with just enough horror sprinkled in. It's not terrifying, it's you know, it's not especially deep, but a wildly enjoyable descent into little dehydration, revenge, and madness. And for me, this one was just a fun time. And for that, I gotta give it a slash.

SPEAKER_01 24:31

Nice, nice. Yeah, I agree with you. The movie gave me exactly what I want from a Sam Raimi film, you know, it's got gore, chaos, this almost like delightful, campy vibe that I'm starting to warm up to as more and more time passes by, right? And certainly the kind of vibe that's like, this is insane, but I'm having such a good time. And I was glued to the screen. I watched this twice now. I think it's really entertaining for that alone. It's a survival thriller, first and foremost, to me. But it never shies away from getting weird or funny. And I think that that tension and the comedy blends really well. It's actually not messy, in my opinion. Now, like we've said, right? What makes it really work for me is how relatable the characters are. Because ultimately the movie understands that we've all dealt with that exhausting asshole boss, okay? The workplace power games. We've got, you know, the feeling of being an underdog who's constantly expected to take it. There's like this capitalist workforce commentary baked into it that serves as the conflict, but it doesn't like shove it down your throat. You know, it's very clear and then it just rides on from there. It's the setup. And I think that I really enjoyed that. I wasn't expecting it. I didn't even see the trailer going into this movie. I saw Dylan O'Brien's name, and then of course everyone else, but Dylan O'Brien's name was already enough to get me into the theater. So as this was unfolding, I was so excited because we all know what that's like. It doesn't take much to get the buy-in from the viewer. So by the end, I felt really hyped. And it gets you to a point where it taps into this feeling of I'm done being pushed around. I felt like I was ready to conquer the world when I finished watching that movie. And again, when I watched it most recently, I was like, man, this feels good. I feel crazy, not that crazy, but just enough, you know? And then on a technical level, I mean, Sam Raimi, his signature vibe is all over it. That gnarly CGI, those uncomfortable close-ups. And we keep bringing up the mummy only because, well, we all saw the mummy not long ago, right before watching this. So it's like there's a lot of gnarliness happening in horror right now. So I'm here for it. It makes you squirm, but it makes you laugh. It's lighthearted enough. So this is one that's a comfort movie for me, therefore, most definitely a slash.

Kris 27:01

Man, for this movie to be as non-horror as it is, boy, it still is satisfyingly bloody. And I think this movie works because it takes a familiar survival setup that we've seen a thousand times before, but it gives it, from my perspective, a sharper emotional engine. And it really does it in the first few minutes just with getting Linda as a person and immediately putting you in her shoes. She ends up being stranded on an island with the living embodiment of every person who has underestimated her, who is stolen from her, who is smiled right in her face while fucking her over, and still expected her to perform gratitude for them or any opportunity that she's had. Many of us have been in Linda's shoes before. So when this movie sinks you in that perspective, it just makes you such good soil for the rest of what's to come. This movie ends up being gory, it ends up being hilarious. And of course, it's anchored by great performances, especially Rachel McAdams. Because Linda could have easily been a one-note awkward underdog. She could have gone fool Kathy Bates in misery too. But Rachel McAdams just gives her layers and nuance. She's funny, she's resentful, she's competent, she's unsettling for sure. But she is increasingly more and more compelling to watch the more the movie goes on. And that performance keeps the movie from becoming too simple because even when you're rooting for Linda, you can feel the line shifting under your feet. I also love that this movie isn't explicitly horror in the most traditional sense, even though I want to be clear about what you all should expect going into this. But for me personally, it still feels horror-coded in the ways that matter. There's that body horror, survival horror, workplace horror, emotional horror, and the horror of realizing that corporate America will squeeze everything out of you and then act confused when you decide to stick up for yourself. And that good for her label, that good for her horror label that we've been talking about makes so much sense because in many ways some might expect Linda to lean into becoming pure or noble, but you end up, like in so many other great horror movies, you get her finally understanding her own value after everyone around her treats her like an accessory to someone else's success. So this movie has layers. It may not be for everyone, especially someone who wants a more conventional horror movie, but for me the performances, the gore, the comedy, everything about this movie makes it such an easy fucking slash. And with that, Zen Help from 2026 has earned a universal slash. Now you can find this movie streaming for rent at home to go check it out, and then we'll join in the spoilers on just a bit.

Sean 30:06

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Kris 32:58

Flight 180's best over here.

Sean 33:01

Yeah, it was a tough, it was a tough shake for that dude. But then, wow, I mean, the whole series of kills that follow just go even higher because you have Chase literally trying to hold on for dear life, but Donovan's literally kicking his teeth out of his face. Brutal. And how is he hold on? How is he biting this dude's leg while getting kicked? He's got no teeth, he's got no teeth. How is he biting? He's gumming that dude's leg.

Kris 33:29

Where there's a will, there's a way, stranger things have happened, but also I just love because it's a little bit of a play on the people that you step on to climb the ladder to success. So Donovan literally stepping on him and stomping on him to kick him down, absolutely poetic.

Sean 33:50

It was gnarly. You know, Donovan shakes him off of his legs, but now he's holding on for your dear life, and he ends up getting fork stabbed nonetheless. Fork stabbed.

Kris 34:03

This motherfucker. This motherfucker.

SPEAKER_01 34:07

Okay. Let me tell you how much I appreciated that when the sound just stopped, there was a moment of silence, and he just screams, give me your seat. Damn, that hit so good.

Sean 34:21

Just absolutely disgusting. This dude just like trying to grab whatever he can, like, I'm gonna take this seat, you need to get out of it. Hell no, dude.

Kris 34:31

Yeah, but it was really just a prime example of it being immediate confirmation that the social cruelty that they were giving her was only one version of just how fucking vile these guys are. Now, granted, people are gonna fight for survival, and when you're desperate and about to get sucked out of the plane, who knows? Maybe we would try throwing each other out of a seat. But also, maybe not. I feel like this guy was simply just an asshole. But what makes it even better is just thinking about getting flung out of the plane, uh, being caught by your tie, slamming against the side of the plane, begging for help. Yeah, it is thematically perfect. It is the corporate uniform literally becoming the thing that kills him.

Sean 35:20

That was good. And listen, that watching him get his face slammed against the window, it was just, I don't know. It was a little bit campy, it was really fun, man. I just you had fun with his whole kill because he was such an asshole. Oh man, you just had to love it. And then, you know, the flight attendant, of course, dies in the plane crash. So, you know, we can presume that the pilots in the plane also die. So RIP, the whole plane goes down. We also get like this really once we get through all of that and we're like in this moment and we're developing through this story, we get this really, and maybe this will also a lot of these things may come back up in scenes, but we really get the heartbreaking story of Linda's husband, and that's a pivotal moment for her as a character, but like this well, heartbreaking for her is what I'm saying, because like it was a very emotional story.

Kris 36:14

Again, this is what Nicole Kidman was talking about. Heartbreak feels good in a place like this.

Sean 36:20

Yeah, but really, I mean, that's a tough thing to go through because literally, you know, obviously she cared a lot about this dude for a long time, and then the relationship goes south, whatever. He's an alcoholic, obviously. He treats her like shit. He probably did a lot of really horrible things to her, but she eventually just says, you know what? Here you go. And lo and behold, this dude goes and gets himself killed that night.

SPEAKER_01 36:45

She had had enough. Linda Little, man. I'm gonna have a I'm gonna frame her picture. I'm gonna look at it every morning. I'm gonna say my mantras.

Kris 36:54

Yeah, Linda Little, patron saint of retribution. Also, once again, she should be in the horror lineup in the redo, the remake, the reboot of He Had It Comin'.

Sean 37:08

It is in an emotional scene that that whole death comes to light. Obviously, we don't see it, we hear about it. But then we get right back into kind of like that action where we have Bradley's fiancé, Zuri, and this guide dude that she's with to try to come find and rescue them, and they both meet their demise as well, hanging off of this cliff that they accidentally fell off and holding for dear life as Linda goes to like bang this dude's head with a rock, causing him to fall off with Zuri off the cliff and die.

Kris 37:42

Wow, spooky bitch in our Discord is gonna light up when I bring up this fucking reference. It's very much what keeps you alive. It's very much I'm gonna push you off a fucking cliff and try to make like look like it was an accident. That's what this movie reminded me of.

Sean 37:58

Oh, wow. I mean fuck that movie.

Kris 38:01

Don't think that that's an advertisement to go see that movie. That movie a fucking blows.

Sean 38:06

But you know, shit like that's happening out there, you know. That's the thing. People are trying to stage that kind of stuff. It happens, it happens. There's some true crime stuff that you can go watch right now where people tried to pull shit like that off.

Kris 38:19

So yeah, but how hilarious is it to later get her hand just perfectly posed from the sandwich.

Sean 38:25

Great. It's the whole it's the whole movie. You just keep seeing her hand with the ring gl like the rock, the diamond just glimmering. You just keep seeing it. It's a pivotal moment. It happens like five times in this film. It's wild.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Yeah, it's too good. I mean, it's quite the rock. It's quite the rock.

Sean 38:44

So, yeah, so those two die, and then finally, you know, we also can presume that Bradley also dies, you know? With what the it was the golf club at the end, but literally the whole thing that happened, like if you really think of everything that led up to his death, he literally got choked out with a shoelace, he was bitten, piece of flesh ripped off of him, stabbed in the abdomen with a knife, and then beaten to death with a golf club, you know.

Kris 39:11

I enjoyed every second of it, and I also loved the beautiful transition between him being struck with a club to the reveal of what her life has become post-rescue iconic. And there's more to say about that because again, just the technicality that was so great. But I want to roll it back real quick to a different death that we got. And Binks, I don't know if you're gonna be my sanity check here. And I really hope that one of our tried and true listeners can fact check me on this. But we all remember the bullshit that was the strangers chapter two with Madeline Patch fighting a fucking boar like a hog, right? Yeah we all remember that. It was terrible. I am so certain that there was another movie between the strangers chapter two and this movie that featured a hog scene. Because I remember saying, Wow, this is the shit that the strangers thought it was doing. For the life of me, I can't remember what movie it was, but I feel like I said that on an episode.

Sean 40:19

You asked this question, and I am so shocked that you still haven't figured this out. And it makes me wonder if it was like something that reminded you of the scene, but it wasn't an actual hog.

Kris 40:29

Maybe it wasn't a hog, maybe, but it was definitely like a wild animal. It was undoubtedly that, and it wasn't frozen either. There's just so much that goes into this, but that hog scene in this movie, she went in on this. It is gross and also a little hokey in some moments, but one of the movie's best gore moments the blood spraying, the spit flying, Linda Stammy in the eye, you see the eye just moving off onto the stick.

Sean 41:04

The eye was so cringy.

Kris 41:05

It feels feral. The best part of this kill is the punchline afterward where she drops the head in front of Bradley and it splatters the blood on his face because it's horrific, yes, but it's also hilarious. It says, You still think you're in charge, motherfucker, but you are not built for this.

SPEAKER_01 41:23

Absolutely. And again, establishing when she says, Have you ever hunted? I think I like it. Oh boy, now we know we're really cooking with gas because she will not be stopped now. And I'm here for it. I'm sad. The whole hog scene was a lot more graphic than I thought it was ever gonna be. In theaters, that squealing felt abysmal. I was like, please do something. I was very intimidated by that hog. But reminding me of the strangest chapter two really did something to me just now, and I know what you're talking about. You did mention something like this. We're gonna have to look at the archives, we're gonna have to look into the animal report.

Sean 42:06

I looked at all of the episodes and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know, maybe.

Kris 42:11

I feel like I just had it on the tip of my tongue.

SPEAKER_01 42:13

It's gonna get there. Stay tuned, listeners. And if you do know, please, by the end of this episode, if we don't have it revealed, you better comment because this is gonna keep us up.

Kris 42:23

Bring it to my subreddit, bring it to the Discord, bring it to the Instagram DMs, bring it to the Instagram post. I don't give a fuck. Feedback at hackerslash.com, Chris at hackerslash.com, send it because this has been haunting me for days.

Sean 42:38

We'll get there.

SPEAKER_01 42:40

That's that's something. That's something. No, but the hogsing really is just a lot. It's the CGI, though, a little bit, right? Or just I mean, a combination because practical effects too is also just a lot, but he has a way of making what is clearly not actually real still look so fucking gross and believable. It's just his brand, you know? And I man, Chris, I really wish that you'd watch Drag Me to Hell because that's just the creme de la creme of it, you know? That's early 2000s madness that somehow had its charm so off the motherfucking walls, and here it is no different. It makes you feel like you just want to like make some not great sounds.

Sean 43:29

It'll happen, I'm sure.

Kris 43:30

One Sam Remy's birthday. Maybe we can do it then.

Sean 43:33

There you go. There you go. Yeah, he does a lot of really interesting things just to give the gross visuals, even down to the little things like the little insect that Bradley eats, because it looks so gross, but in reality, it's really just this gelatin with chocolate inner shells and like shredded. It's basically a fucking uh Dubai chocolate in a form of a bug. He literally was stuffed with shredded phyllo pastry, pistachio, and chocolate. I mean it. It's basically a Dubai chocolate bug that he ate, but he made it look so nasty. And I was like, ooh, that just feels every bit of that. I was like, I'm not eating that shit. There's no way I'm eating a freaking beetle that crawls across the rock, no matter how desperate I get. I'd rather literally eat something, I don't know, like a leaf or something. But yeah, definitely kudos to that. I think in this movie, and you know, with Sam Raimi and what he did, this guy cannot sit still behind the camera. And it is just makes for a very interesting watch. Even when it's just two people on an island talking, he finds ways to make it kinetic. He's got crash zooms, he's got these sudden POV shifts, he's got these aggressive close-ups that just feel interesting, and the framing and all of the things that he does with the camera work and the editing as well. This visual style keeps a very simple premise from becoming repetitive. And I think that it would it was a really big strength in the process of making this film come to life.

SPEAKER_01 44:58

There's a way that he does these close-ups that feel so unsettling. You were saying that, and I was just thinking, man, when he has that camera and he is dead set on Linda's face. I mean, her eye is fucked. She's like full chaos mode right now, and she's basically saying to Bradley, fuck you, and swallows that ring. Get out of here. That was intense, but such a beautiful shot.

Kris 45:29

And there are a lot of great shots in this movie, but I want to highlight a moment that was underscored with incredible sound because you get some of these close-ups with this dialogue between Linda and Bradley. We're talking about, you know, Sean, you mentioned Linda's confession about her husband. And you took it as a very emotional scene. I saw it less as being emotional and more of being borderline confessional. You start this moment thinking, wow, she's really being vulnerable and opening up about this. And the more you listen to it, the more you think, you know, someone's not right here. Again, good for her, not no, very much aligned, but it almost is this precursor to who she ends up becoming a little bit later in the movie. But the way that music shifts as she is unpacking the story of her husband, it was one of the best moments of sound in the whole film.

Sean 46:32

Yeah, it's definitely. I mean, it's a it's one of the best moments of sound in the film. It's definitely a very pivotal moment in the depth of the characters and how you feel about the characters. It was another layer for Linda as a character. And yeah, it was just a lot to kind of go through and hear all of that. And there was just some really great moments throughout this film where I think that these characters and just these two going at it, that just the back and forth of what these two are doing, where you think that it's just this these tonal shifts throughout the movie or these power shifts, whatever you want to call them, it just made so for such an interesting watch because you keep thinking that like maybe they have these moments where they're gonna work together, and then it was just some manipulation by Bradley or something, you know what I mean, that was interesting. So, like, like the dinner scene that Bradley tries to make up, and like, hey, I'm gonna make you some dinner. And you know, at first you're like, Okay, like maybe he finally gets it, you know, maybe he finally understands that like he's pretty much useless, he can't really do anything. So he makes this dinner and it's nice at first, but then immediately you know, because you've been in these situations, if you watch horror movies and things like that, you know that something's going down because there's just this awkwardness, and you start to see her getting a little bit woozy, you know instantly that he fucked with her food, and then he tries to escape on the raft. But you think this only serious moment, he's on the raft, it's just silly because the whole thing falls apart in the first wave that hits the fucking raft because he's just useless. This guy can't do anything, there's no way he survives on his own. It was just ridiculous. But then the vomiting of it all as she's dragging him out of the water and she keeps throwing up on his face, and you know he's he's swallowing some of that vomit, it's so gross.

Kris 48:24

I have a terrible moment. Drag me down. I have a very terrible moment where bless my oldest brother for dealing with this shit. Apparently, there's a time. You know how like when you're an adult babysitting young kid, sometimes you do like the Superman where you like hold them up above your head and they like feel like they're flying.

Sean 48:43

Yeah.

Kris 48:44

Apparently, I threw up on his face when he was doing that to me when I was a very small, small toddler.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

Well, that's what it gets.

Kris 48:51

I mean, fuck around and find out it gets, but he wasn't like fucking with me, you know what I mean? Like I wanted it, like it was a fun activity, and then I just you know got sick. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 49:00

I mean, deeply. I was not ready for you to admit that that's crazy.

Kris 49:05

It's terrible, but that's what I thought of when I saw this moment in the movie, and I was like, damn, Bradley. Now, Bradley, fuck around and find out. Absolutely. That's payback. Oh, that's retribution for the fucking moment where they're all mocking her on her survivor audition tape.

Sean 49:22

Okay. Let's see the survivor audition tape was fucking hilarious, though. You've got to admit, like, if you watched that in any other context, you would be also having a good time with it.

SPEAKER_01 49:33

No, no, no, no, hold on. Because she was giving it her all. And my question to you, Sean, is like, do we get to see people's audition tapes for this show? Like, I don't know. I was out here like, I can see the dedication girl. She put the camera where I need it to be. She was giving it, you know, some good pizzazz, good energy.

Kris 49:52

Maybe the next thing that needs to go on our hackerslash TikTok account is Sean's Survivor Audition Tape.

Sean 49:57

I've never made one. I've honestly never made one. I don't even know what I don't even know what goes into making one. I would imagine it's something like that because you have to kind of you have to show them why they would want you on the show. Because you gotta imagine there's probably all thousands of people trying to apply every season. I have coworkers that I've worked with that have tried to apply for years and have never gotten on. Like, literally send a video in every single season casting never get on.

Kris 50:29

So, you know, I'm sure maybe they need your prominence and production value.

Sean 50:34

I don't know. I don't know what it is, but listen, I give her kudos. Like the audition tape, she was really giving it, it was theatrical. It just those moments where like it pans out and she's just like on a jungle gym and there's kids rolling around. Like it just, you know, I don't know. It seemed a little bit silly for sure. But I will say, outside of the survival, you know, the survivor tape that they were making fun of, the moment that I'm watching this movie and she's sitting on the couch and Survivor comes on the screen, I was like, I'm sold. This movie is for me. This is amazing.

Kris 51:09

This is the earliest slash Sean has ever given.

Sean 51:12

Yeah, it was a slash right away. There was no way this movie was ever gonna go back from that. So I was here for it.

Kris 51:20

I was definitely what about when she was presenting to slash his dick in the fake castration scene. Did that still do it for you?

Sean 51:27

Or yeah, what that's the ultimate payback. It was so well done. It had me convinced that she was literally slicing his fucking shit off. Like it was so good. I the sound effects, we're talking about sound, the sound effects on that right there, and the close-ups on Bradley's face as he's literally because I'm assuming he's paralyzed, can't feel anything, so he's just hearing. And I would be in the same position if that was happening to me, I'd be freaking the hell out. That was great.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

It was incredible. It was incredible, incredible. Bought every moment of it. I really thought that she was sending it. I mean, at this point, we've seen all kinds of crazy shit that of what in terms of what she's capable of. We've learned we've learned most certainly not to underestimate her.

Sean 52:12

So it's true.

Kris 52:14

Yeah. Could we also just acknowledge for a moment when we finally figure out that there's a fucking beach house? And not only did she choose to not accept help, she also choose not, she also chose not to accept the help that was available all along. Like she staged this house and went through some lengths, and yet she was still out there foraging and creating structures and really playing Survivor this entire time.

SPEAKER_01 52:43

Listen, I almost felt like erupting into applause because the fact that she had been going in there and getting her little spa and treatment and just having a good old time, but then going back out there in the grunt to stick to the plan, to stick to the bit. In the good words of Blondie, one way or another, I'm gonna get ya. Because I was stunned. So much so that when it was first revealed, I thought, that's strange. She's never been here before, like that she hadn't said anything. When it clicked for me, was like, oh no, she really like she's traversed through there. When she says the line about you really think that there'd be a knife that just washes up to shore. She says something along those lines, right? That I'm like, oh my God, I have even underestimated my queen. How could I? How really could I? She's just incredible, man. That was so good. And he really thought that he had discovered gold, but she was always one step ahead.

Sean 53:43

Ridiculous. It was just such a funny moment. Like it's one thing to obviously turn away from the boat, but it's another to literally find the house, sneak into it, get some food and some nourishment, get a knife, and then go back out there and literally choose not to be sleeping in that mansion and just or beach house or whatever it is, and just playing the part. It was hilarious. You gotta love it. You absolutely gotta love it. And I think that's you know, when we get into like Linda as a character, this movie literally lives or dies on whether Linda's transformation works in this movie, and it really just does. It goes, it literally, the transformation of her as a character is like one of the biggest like swing shifts that just works so well, like being the office, basically, just office wallpaper. Like nobody cared about this girl. Everyone just wrote her off, they made fun of her, whatever, and then she becomes literally this like wild, blood-soaked character that just turns the script on Bradley and becomes like so. I don't even want to say the antagonist, but she kind of is and isn't. But it's just like someone that you really root for, but is also doing some really wild shit, but also Bradley deserved all the stuff. So it's just a very interesting thing. It's just the watching the confidence mutate into vengeance. She's not becoming empowered in like this, you know, girl boss way. She's becoming like, I don't know, maybe she's becoming like, I don't know, is she's becoming kind of like maybe girl boss, but also kind of like this monster at the same time. Like it's a thin line that she's crossing here.

SPEAKER_01 55:22

No, I see what you're saying. Because I feel like sometimes with girl boss, it maybe has become like this connotation that there's like some level of pretentiousness with that, or that it's almost like fake at this point. You know, like girl boss behavior has almost been co-opted by a weird thing that makes it feel like women shouldn't be standing up for themselves. I feel like she discovers her self-worth. And when she discovers her self-worth and how much power she has and how much her knowledge is power, quite literally, she is unfucking leader. Like well, survival battle.

Kris 56:01

Well, that's the thing about Linda. This is not Linda's journey to competence. In some horror movies, we get women who have some inner strength for sure, and they're put in extraordinary circumstances that push them further. And then sometimes teenage girls grow up before our very eyes and have to face horrors and no teenagers should. No, this is a woman who has always been deeply competent, has proven herself to have the skill, was mocked and ridiculed, and then was put in an arena where her skills can shine. And that's what I love about her because sure she's socially awkward, she's downtrodden, but she's never incapable. There's never an ounce of this movie where you feel like she's incapable. She's just by some folks' standards, a little fucking weird.

SPEAKER_01 56:51

But she's been great this whole time. And I mean, Bradley, on the other hand, though, everything handed to him. What knowledge does he really have? Like you were saying, Sean, he really is useless, but even before they hit the island, because the reality is that he has his position because of his father. He's hiring people like if it's social hour, you know, bringing up his frat bro, Donovan, and not really thinking strategically, which tells me that he doesn't actually have any business acumen whatsoever, you know, being very sleazy with women that he's hiring, basically asking, like, what are you willing to do for me? So you, Bradley, don't have any skills at all. So when you hit the island, it's no wonder that you also are going to fail there too. So they are perfect foils of one another because again, it goes back to underestimating people. You know, you see from the exterior this Linda, who, like you said, Chris, like by some people's standards, maybe a little weird off-putting, but she's the one that has actually all the power to be successful, whether it be, you know, in the business workplace ultimately or in a freaking island. Whereas on the other hand, you look at Bradley on paper, maybe from the exterior, you think, ah, good looking guy. He knows how to work a room. Of course, he's gonna be the CEO and be able to make all this money. He's literally trash and scum.

Sean 58:16

But that's why his character works so well. Like he he brings like this kind of like charismatic, just enough charismatic charm that he's watchable, but he's also really douchey, and we enjoy all of the suffering that happens to him. It's just like the balance between the two, like you're saying, just kind of really works, the dynamic between the two.

Kris 58:35

Yeah, the most infuriating part of all this, though, is that he found someone to love him because Zuri really went to the ends of the earth to find a man who didn't deserve her.

Sean 58:44

Amazing. That blows my mind, actually. It also makes me wonder if he had like, I guess she would have maybe come because she didn't know if he was dead or not, but like, would anyone have come, you know, for Linda if Brad wasn't on the plane? Probably nobody, you know, she'd have just been out there, but she probably would have been surviving because she's a survivor. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 59:08

Well, not only that, well, true, yes, that has been quite frankly, she would have been mansion. Yeah, she would have been living large. Exactly. Oh, good point. But man, I will say his laugh was also crazy. Dylan O'Brien's laugh in this movie is insane. I think it's almost like he's a little off his rocker. I'm here for it a thousand percent.

Sean 59:34

I really loved the fact that we get a really nice little Bruce Campbell surprise cameo in this movie because he's like just the Bradley's late father in the portrait. That's such a fun way to like kind of show, like just for Sam Raimi to throw his boy Bruce Campbell in there, you know? It was just hilarious. It was fantastic.

Kris 59:57

Yeah, Eagle Eye has I didn't even clock it.

Sean 1:00:01

What? Oh man, there we watch it.

Kris 1:00:04

Everything was happening so fast, and by so fast, I was just thinking, man, this guy really fucking sucks.

Sean 1:00:09

Yeah.

Kris 1:00:10

Fair enough.

Sean 1:00:12

Sam Raimi likes to throw like little things into the movies. One thing that he throws in all of his movies is he'll throw in his famous 1973 Oldsmobile, the same car that's in the evil dead, and he'll throw it in all of his movies somewhere, and you gotta look for it. And in this movie, we did get it, and it was at the beginning of the film in the parking garage as the opening sequence.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:35

God damn. He finds a way, man. I again the commitment to the big you gotta love it. I appreciate it.

Sean 1:00:44

You gotta love it, you gotta love it. Well, here's the question, though. Could you do you think, like if you're put in this situation? I mean, I talked about it a little bit, but I, you know, do you think that you can actually survive if this happened to you and you landed on this island? Do you think you can survive? And how long do you think you can survive?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:07

We both be like, listen, well, we all know my answer for so many different reasons. My health is just declining as it is in normal here, right now, present day. So not sure how I would survive. However, some of you may be thinking, well, Bianca, there is salt in salt water ocean. Sure, that's not how pots works, but I appreciate that sentiment. And you thinking that would be the case, the scorching heat alone, just being a Miami resident sends me down. So I I don't know if I would make it, but I really want to learn how, you know, I really want to give it the good old college try. Maybe I'll start watching some YouTube videos, some DIY things, just in case. I want to give myself a shot. I'm trying to be more confident in 2026 that I can survive an apocalypse and that I can survive being stranded in an island.

Kris 1:02:04

I think what would fuck me up is a lack of knowledge of what fish or animals may have some toxins in them because I can endure quite a bit. I'd probably try to eat some stuff that I think would be on the safer side, like some fruits, etc. Whatever you can find around there. I'd be hard pressed to like kill a land mammal. Fishing, maybe that's a little bit different for me. I could probably figure that out. But I would with my luck, I would like hold it off and then finally eat one of the fucking things that paralyzed you from the neck down. I'd be fucked in that respect in that regard. If it was just based on like the skill of I mean, I I have enough to endure like my health is whatever it is, but it's not I'm not, I think, in a position where I would just immediately die or like have a heat stroke. But I I could figure it out for a little while, maybe like 30 days. Anything past that, who knows?

Sean 1:03:01

Yeah, it's tough to think about because you need to find a water source, and on an island, like obviously she did a really cool thing with like the water, and kudos to like obviously they brought in like an actual survivor expert or survivalist expert from Australia to like train her and to also build some of these sets and to make sure so like the water gathering, like all that stuff is legit. But I could tell you right now, I wouldn't have done that. Like to get water, I would be like hoping that there was some kind of like flowing stream somewhere on the island. Like I'd be going inland trying to find it. But that was really clever with like rain. I guess you would eventually think to collect rainwater somehow.

Kris 1:03:43

I think the second it starts raining, you would think to, but to plant for it in advance and not know if it's gonna rain, that's a different story.

Sean 1:03:52

Yeah, we'd all be like Bradley trying to scramble to catch it before the rain suddenly stops.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:57

Well, because you don't know where you are. So my first assumption would be like, is it even gonna rain in this bitch? I don't even know. Now, if there were local people, you know, like if we're stranded on an island where maybe there's a local tribe, I like to believe that I can, you know, build some friendships, build some charisma.

Sean 1:04:14

You never know, they might not be friendly.

Kris 1:04:16

Next thing you know, Binx is on the sequel to Cannibal Holocaust.

Sean 1:04:20

Yeah, you might be getting eaten, you might become the dinner.

Kris 1:04:23

Damn.

Sean 1:04:24

Oh fair enough, fair.

Kris 1:04:27

Oh, let's remember the real cannibals were the visitors.

Sean 1:04:31

That is true, that is true, you know. Yeah, so I don't know. It'd be an interesting thing for sure. I think, yes, gathering like you know, coconuts and fruits and different things is a is an easy way. If you had to resort to bugs, I don't know if I could do it. I mean, I might be able to roast a cricket or something on some sticks, you know. That might be okay, just a little crunchy chip or something.

Kris 1:04:51

In this Sean's kitchen? Absolutely the fuck not. You could come back to the stuff.

Sean 1:04:55

No, like you used to go to Universal Studios and the Jurassic Park section, you can get the lollipops with the bugs in the middle. Like, that was a thing back in the day. You never had that?

Kris 1:05:04

I never wanted that.

Sean 1:05:05

Well, I had one.

Kris 1:05:06

What?

Sean 1:05:07

I had one. I had one. You're built different. I mean, they sold it, it's gotta be okay, you know. They put bugs in everything, folks. If you're eating your favorite nerd clusters, there's bugs in that shit. Look it up. Yeah. Did you ever look at it? Yeah, deep dive that. They use bugs for all kinds of coloring and all kinds of stuff. So go ahead and deep dive that one and ruin your whole childhood.

Kris 1:05:26

There was a kid who I went to elementary school with in Texas, and he would collect money from people. He would collect money from people, and he would eat crickets and bugs on the playground.

Sean 1:05:38

Yeah, I had a guy in school that in high school that used to put like spiders in his mouth. He was known for putting like even black widows and shit in his mouth. And he'll just pick up a spider somewhere on the campus and just be like, uh, and have it in his mouth alive. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:53

He might I have been taken on the same thrill ride that I was on watching this movie in the la everything that you guys just Said back to back has sent me for a fucking loop right now. What? So many people eating bugs in just one breath. That's insane. I'm going through it. Clusters, crickets for fun. This is crazy. Black widows? Yeah.

Sean 1:06:17

What? I don't know. I he might, yeah. I wonder if he's still alive. I have no idea, but you seem kind of edgy.

Kris 1:06:23

At the rate at which this man is comfortable putting that much shit in his mouth, no fucking way he's alive today.

Sean 1:06:28

Yeah, you never know. I don't know. But yeah, I mean, I I just think of like, you know, if you had to, maybe. I don't know. Fishing is another thing that's hard. You either have to figure out like how you're gonna actually make like a fishing line and a hook with bait, or you have to make a spear somehow, and then you gotta be like really quick with it. You gotta really be good at that. That's I don't think spear fishing is super easy.

Kris 1:06:52

You could fashion a net in some way.

Sean 1:06:54

I guess okay, a net. Yeah, a net would work if you can figure out how to make a net or if you have some materials, you know, somewhere. I don't know.

Kris 1:07:01

Oh, you have to take some of the fucking like tree leaves and shit, like the long crabs.

Sean 1:07:09

You can get little crab, even the little ones, you can boil a whole bunch of little crabs. That works. Yeah, there's ways to do that.

Kris 1:07:17

Now I want to go do a seafood boil.

Sean 1:07:19

Oh, a little crab boil.

Kris 1:07:21

A crab uh crab boil.

Sean 1:07:23

Yeah, that's fun. Maybe we'll just stick to the crab boils instead of trying to strand ourselves on an island and try to figure it out, you know?

Kris 1:07:30

Sean, how about this when you have some days off? Let's just go get some seafood dinner and then we'll say that we were sharing this.

Sean 1:07:35

We'll pretend that we caught this on a deserted island. Nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

Just put a backdrop of an island behind you.

Sean 1:07:43

Oh that's the bonus episode.

Kris 1:07:46

Let's just drive down to the keys, huh?

SPEAKER_01 1:07:47

There you go.

Sean 1:07:49

Oh, I bet it would be good. Yeah. Well, you know, I think that's I think that's a good plan. But yeah, I think overall, I think that the you know, the best part of this movie is really just watching the power dynamic flip so hard that you know, you just it's just so interesting. I don't know. I just had a really good time with it. Just the power flip of everything, just watching somebody become an underdog that just becomes this badass, and you know, the tables turning on Bradley being this douchey boss to this helpless little screaming purse dog, you know what I mean? Like just terrible. But it was also so fun.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:28

Yeah, I agree with you. And I think ultimately, even this conversation that we just had, right? It's commentary on almost also like white collar work and blue collar work to an extent, too, right? Like never getting your hands dirty, you know, and really doing the tough things. They're so soft. Right out of the fact Bradley's hands are extremely soft, I'm sure. Yuck. But also not toxic.

Kris 1:08:54

Absolutely fucking gross. Listen, the worst thing about this movie is that Bradley is such a real person, and Donovan is such a real person. And while we all can laugh, let us all pour one out for every woman who is overshadowed by one of these dickwads in real life.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:12

Absolutely. But you know what? Best part is also that there is a Linda Little out there. There are many of them. There are many bad bitches just waiting for the chance. And I hope you come out and you know your self-worth and you be that bitch. Maybe don't do something as extreme as Linda Little.

Kris 1:09:32

Or do, whatever. Don't let us tell us what you can tell you. Or do I'm not gonna indem your shine.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:36

I wipe my hands with it. Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm just saying that yes, there are assholes, but I know that there are a lot of women that are just trying to make friends at work, that are trying to go to karaoke with their coworkers and they just get, you know, tossed aside. Their only friends are their pet. It's not me, by the way. I'm not Linda Little person. But there are parts of Linda Little that we can relate to, man, that we can relate to, most certainly. And I love that about her. I think that's great. And that's exactly why I would watch this movie again and again and again. It's so good. It's so fun for so many different reasons. It's also one just to throw on, it's one to get your friends to watch. It's one for you to every time that you're sad and you're like stressed from work, throw on send help. Because it's true what she says at the end. Sometimes the only person that will save you is yourself. No one's coming to get you. You have to be the one that saves yourself. What a fucking mic drop.

Sean 1:10:38

It's true. Yeah, it's true. And I think like this movie is a movie that has a lot of rewatch value. I've seen this movie twice now, so I'm not sure when I'm gonna rewatch it again. I I naturally caught this as soon as it came out in theaters, not knowing foolishly that we would like put this in the lineup. So I was like, oh yeah, cool. I'm gonna watch a movie for fun and not just well, it's always fun, but like I'm not gonna like be serious about like jotting any thoughts down. And of course, it comes in the lineup. Every time this happens, folks, it every time it's like.

Kris 1:11:10

I don't know why you don't just do like a voice note for yourself when you're done. I know at this point, just do a little voice note with whatever your thoughts were, not the fool stuff, and then at least you can remind yourself.

Sean 1:11:22

Yeah, I know, but then it's been like so much time, I feel like has lapsed. It feels like a lot of time has lapsed since we put it in the lineup, and so like I was well, I kind of want to brush up, like I remember the movie, but I want to brush up on like some of the details, obviously. And so naturally I just re-watched the movie, and I had a just as good of a time re-watching it as I did the first time, like nothing suffered in this movie, even knowing what was gonna happen, and I just loved it. So I think it's definitely a lot of rewatch value. There's some Easter eggs in there, the the acting is really good, visually, it's really fun. So you can definitely watch this over and over again, but watching it twice in a short amount of time, I'll probably give it a little bit before I come back to it.

Kris 1:12:04

I am very much looking forward to watching this again. Rachel McAdams is such a star. I feel like I got so much from her. I really do want to watch Misery again and then re-watch this and then think about Rachel McAdams recreating some of those quotes from Kathy Bates. I feel like there's a little bit of an overlap here. In the Venn diagram, there was a small sliver of center where I think these two characters could be friends.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:32

Hell yeah. Oh my god, that was a great one. That was a great one. That's a damn it. What am I doing later? Throwing on misery and doing the double feature.

Kris 1:12:45

That was so good. It really was. It really was. And I also think this movie would be even more fun to watch with friends. So I think the next time I watch it, maybe I'll put it on later this summer as a watch party in our Discord. Because I feel like I need to see some more reactions from people for now. There you have it, folks. Send help has earned a universal flash. You can come check it out on our Discord if you want later this summer. But for now, while we've certainly had a robust discussion, the conversation still doesn't end here by any means.

Sean 1:13:17

No, definitely not. If you want to find out how you can go even further than this episode right here, just consider supporting the show and visit patreon.com/slash hacker slash. This is honestly where you can enjoy so much more of the show with bonus content, early access, extended episodes, our B sides, movie nominations, and of course, live shows.

Kris 1:13:39

We'll see you next time, folks, and remember no help is coming. You better start saving yourself.